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Re: Greenland is a beautiful nightmare

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Post by spauldo »

forgotoldacc wrote: post #58
ccleve wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Irked me too. I'm running for state representative in House District 9, which covers much of that area. The district is drop dead gorgeous and it's growing rapidly. There's a lot here.

Pretty much everyone on earth is proud of their home area. I've never really been to a place where people didn't describe their home as one of the most beautiful places on earth. Earth has a lot of nice places. The flatness of Indiana can be calming and beautiful. But if you're driving on main roads, it's not very exciting, and it's not the kind of exciting people will fly across the world to see. And that was the po…

Try going to west Oklahoma sometime. Not even the people who've never traveled think it's the most beautiful place on Earth.

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Post by Paradigm2020 »

impossiblefork wrote: post #85
WalterBright wrote: post #60

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> They simply have no reason to prefer foreign domination The reason is they require subsidy to live there. The economy appears to run at a net deficit. The same reason the Vikings gave up on it.

I don't think the subsidy is required. The net deficit is small. Some Swedish regions also have a net deficit relative to other Swedish regions, but that doesn't mean that they don't work out economically. After all, not all economic activity in region is taxed there. A firm in Örnsköldsvik pays their taxes to the Swedish government, and then the Swedish government distributes part back to the region. It's around 600…

10k.

Re: Greenland is a beautiful nightmare

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Post by jccalhoun »

tptacek wrote: post #5

It's funny to me that in portraying Indiana as a "blank state" he's highlighting one of the most beautiful parts of the state (the route through the Dunes along the Michigan lakefront; if you've seen "Road To Perdition", you know what that area looks like). It's not important to the article, a complete tangent, but I can't not call that out.

I bugged me too. I'm from Southern Indiana and when I hear people say "Indiana is flat" or "Indiana is boring to look at" all I hear them say is "I've only been to the Northern part of Indiana."

There is a lot to shit on Indiana for but its natural beauty isn't one of them.

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Post by kyledrake »

jb1991 wrote: post #108
kyledrake wrote: post #105

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It's really easy to write off a giant part of the country that millions of people live in as tired (and the implication underneath is usually "backward"), it's also dehumanizing them and makes assumptions about their quality of life when it might actually be a lot better than the people making these assumptions. Spend some time not just driving through them, and one may be surprised to find plenty of diverse and inte…

The phrase “got tired “is not referring to the modern populations but rather the people who founded those original settlements in those states centuries ago.

They didn't "get tired", they found rich soil and ample water to do farming and milling, which is what they were intending to find. It's called the bread basket of America for a reason.

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Post by jccalhoun »

kubectl_h wrote: post #39
tptacek wrote: post #5

It's funny to me that in portraying Indiana as a "blank state" he's highlighting one of the most beautiful parts of the state (the route through the Dunes along the Michigan lakefront; if you've seen "Road To Perdition", you know what that area looks like). It's not important to the article, a complete tangent, but I can't not call that out.

This is good to know, I have passed through Indiana a number of times on I-70 and I've found it to be particularly flat and boring. I know there are pretty places everywhere but that stretch has felt like exactly what he was saying, a place you have to get through to go somewhere else.

Whenever I see people say Indiana is flat and boring I know they haven't been south of I-70.

Re: Greenland is a beautiful nightmare

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Post by crikeykangaroo »

ck2 wrote: post #50
idiotsecant wrote: post #6

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I don't think that's an accurate characterization of either of those articles. It sounds like they're trying to find groups who want to be independent, probably with the goal of artificially propping them up. It's still gross, but not as gross as hunting dissidents.

There are less than 60,000 people in Greenland Not 6 million, only 60K It's like a small city population spread out much further Much easier to disappear opposition than try to recruit people pro-oppression This is not going to end well because it's not about the mineral rights It's about the northwest passage, which will then be another cold war with Canada I hope all these countries understand the vast majority of…

> I hope all these countries understand the vast majority of US population is not okay with this

Where are the protests against the current regime in the US? I see more support rather than outrage. If the US in its current state was any other third-world shithole, you'd be invaded by 2003 US.

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Post by zamadatix »

ccleve wrote: post #95
forgotoldacc wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pretty much everyone on earth is proud of their home area. I've never really been to a place where people didn't describe their home as one of the most beautiful places on earth. Earth has a lot of nice places. The flatness of Indiana can be calming and beautiful. But if you're driving on main roads, it's not very exciting, and it's not the kind of exciting people will fly across the world to see. And that was the po…

This area has a lot of hills.

Many areas have some minor hills, or some variant infinitely more interesting (hoosier myself, I regret moving here 10 years ago and may finally be bothered enough by it to deal with moving out in Spring). All in all, a state this big with less than 1,000 ft between the highest and lowest parts is just disappointingly flat, given the general lack of other natural attraction.

I'd say the caves in that region of the state are interesting, but options like Mammoth Cave are not that far away in KY (and they have better hills too).

Re: Greenland is a beautiful nightmare

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Post by bruce511 »

iagooar wrote: post #83

I have been to northern Norway and Iceland a few times. It all started when I was running my previous SaaS at the peak of its growth. I needed a break, and wanted to go far away, while still being close enough if sh*t hit the fan. My co-founder had recently talked to some friends who had been to Tromsø, Norway. The place looked perfect, so I booked a 5-day solo trip there. Places that are so distant, with such harsh…

Thanks for this. I'm going to Nesseby Norway next summer for 3 days over the solstice.

There doesn't look like much to do there, which I guess is kinda the point. I'm looking forward to it.

Re: Greenland is a beautiful nightmare

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Post by gruez »

ck2 wrote: post #3

fun-fact: CIA is currently mucking around in Greenland trying to get rid of people against annexation this is not going to end well https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0j9l08902eo https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-polit...

>fun-fact: CIA is currently mucking around in Greenland trying to get rid of people against annexation

That's a very misleading phrasing for what's essentially an influence operation. Your wording of "get rid of people ..." implies there's some assassinations/violence going on, but there's nothing to suggest that's happening. If Republicans/Democrats or even Russia was running an influence operation in the US, nobody would characterize that as "getting rid" of opponents or whatever.

Re: Greenland is a beautiful nightmare

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Post by mothballed »

jccalhoun wrote: post #123
tptacek wrote: post #5

It's funny to me that in portraying Indiana as a "blank state" he's highlighting one of the most beautiful parts of the state (the route through the Dunes along the Michigan lakefront; if you've seen "Road To Perdition", you know what that area looks like). It's not important to the article, a complete tangent, but I can't not call that out.

I bugged me too. I'm from Southern Indiana and when I hear people say "Indiana is flat" or "Indiana is boring to look at" all I hear them say is "I've only been to the Northern part of Indiana." There is a lot to shit on Indiana for but its natural beauty isn't one of them.

It's likely people from west of the Mississippi.

Indiana and other midwestern states have some awesome nature, but it's basically taken for granted by people from there because you grow up having your family show you all those places. Imagine if aliens showed up to a megacity, and declared there was no food anywhere -- a local would show them places called "restaurants" that actually have more varied and competitive tasty foods than about any farmland areas you'd find, but the aliens would think there's food only in the farmlands and declare the city worthless for finding something to eat.

If you drive out west, you don't even have to look for them; astounding nature is evereywhere.

End result is people from midwestern states appreciate the beauty of their state, but people who haven't lived there for years generally don't. Even after leaving the midwest, I have a high appreciation for the natural landscape, but that's only because I know where to go when I get there.

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