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Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

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Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

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Okay that's a cool feature. This is a good place to use this technology. It is interesting, though, that Google's products have suffered so much regression as AI has advanced. In the past I could search my images with "Subaru" and reliably get photos. Now it's clearly a subset. Same with Google's voice assistant which was actually more capable 5 or 6 years ago. I get it. It's probably easier to maintain with a genera…

Enshittification comes to Google Photos.

It's terrible now.

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

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Does anyone actually like conversational AI? I feel like we are zombie walking into some dystopian future.. 'if life was a text-based adventure game'.

So now am i back in a dark room fumbling around for commands. So I have to guess what the secret rules are, and guess what the magic words are, and I don't even know what your program is capable of?

..no, I never made it out of the first room in thgttg.

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

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I host Immich in Hetzner (VPS w/ attached 1TB storage box) and connect to it using Tailscale which works pretty flawlessly on my phone. It's great, although the VPS is pretty slow and I might move to a home server at some point. I might also just switch over to Ente so I don't have to deal with the self-hosting. Price for Ente is about equivalent for what I'm paying Hetzner right now.

Immich didn't have encryption last time i checked, do you trust hetzner with your photos? I also use Immich, but on a local server (using tailscale to reach it from outside)

> do you trust hetzner with your photos?

No, it's really a temporary solution. My ideal setup will be having it on a local server w/ encrypted backups to Hetzner (or Backblaze or whatever) but I need to acquire the hardware for it and got fatigued with de-Googling so I put the project on hold as "good enough" for now.

If anybody does manage to get a hold of all of my photos... I won't be too heartbroken about it. It would be creepy for somebody to have them but there's nothing incriminating in there and it's literally 90% pictures of dogs and cats (and 9% landscapes/flowers, 1% people)

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

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I host Immich in Hetzner (VPS w/ attached 1TB storage box) and connect to it using Tailscale which works pretty flawlessly on my phone. It's great, although the VPS is pretty slow and I might move to a home server at some point. I might also just switch over to Ente so I don't have to deal with the self-hosting. Price for Ente is about equivalent for what I'm paying Hetzner right now.

You could keep the Hetzner VPS with storage for faster online serving of assets and connect a second immich instance only for machine learning on your home server. That way you'd get the best of both worlds: fast media serving and higher performance. That would mean that images are uploaded to the Hetzner server, but the compute-intensive image classification takes place on your home server.

A friend suggested this as well. My desktop has a 2080 which is decent enough for machine learning.

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

#126

I look forward to trying: Enhance 224 to 176. Enhance. Stop. Move in. Stop. Pull out, track right. Stop. Center and Pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop. Enhance 34 to 36. Pan right and Pull back. Stop. Enhance 34 to 46. Pull back. Wait a minute. Go right. Stop. Enhance 57 to 19. Track 45 left. Stop. Enhance 15 to 23. Gimme a hard copy right there.

Reference: https://youtu.be/hHwjceFcF2Q (Blade Runner scene)

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

#127

What is happening on the Photos team? I know a lot of the core team has left already, but lately it really seems like they are cramming in AI functionality in a way that does not consider the whole experience and it truly feels bolted-on. First they tried to mess with regular search and had to leave in a setting for people to go out of their way to disable it. Google Photos used to be one of my most favorite apps. No…

Well if you do not inject AI features how will you gather data that comes from its inputs?

All this is an attempt of feeding more and more data to AI to make it as strong as possible.

If photos used your pics for training you can claim "i don't use any ai feature then why my photo is sent to ai"

Now that everyone has ai by default you cannot make that claim

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

#128
I wonder at what point (if not already) Google will start scanning personal photos for generative AI training. It must be a tempting asset base for them.

Personally, I've begun moving my photos off of Google in anticipation that this is the next step (or if it's already happening, to prevent more of it).

I'm a very private person. The only place online that I keep my personal photos of family, friends and my memories is in Google Photos and I don't trust them not to use these assets for training. I (maybe daftly) trusted this as a sort of private vault for my photos, and don't want my likeness or that of my family, wife, or friends being used to generate AI content.

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

#129

Uhm... I'm probably "consevative" but if I take a photo I want to have a photo of the moment and not "a variation of the moment"... o_O

The original advertising for these removal and fix-up features confounded me.

Google ads for camera/Google Photos features were marketing the ability to change the content of the moment being captured, remove things in the background, fit people into the photo who weren't there, add details, change the weather and background.

It made me imagine in the distant future, I would be looking back at false memories. If I made a bunch of genAI photos now and ended up with a neurodegenerative disease, I would be able to fondly look back at memories of myself landing on the moon, winning gold at the olympics etc.

Re: Android users can now use conversational editing in Google Photos

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I took care of it myself by cancelling my rental of the server and renting a different one. And then setting up that one the way I wanted it and restoring data from my offsite backup. I think there was a form asking for reason for cancelling the server and I ticked something like “other” and left a note for them saying that there was hardware problems. So I would assume they have a look at it, replace the bad compone…

Huh. Was curious what kind of discount they provide in case of downtime caused by hardware failure, but it sounds like they didn't even notice. Shouldn't they monitor the basic vitals? Or you simply reacted too quickly?

Not OP. But with an unmanaged server it is on you. You are in full control and can leave it powered off if you so desire.

Monitorering is then your responsibility. They have no login/account on your host.

For any hardware issues I have had I have simply created a support ticket. They have always been really fast at responding and fixing for me. If you report a disk and serial number it gets swapped in no time.

They have managed offerings as well. I have never used those.

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