Ships are sailing with fake insurance from the Norwegian Ro Marine

Post by rufus_foreman » Fri, Sep 12, 2025, 11:21 PM UTC

mandevil wrote: post #66

dmix wrote: post #32

I used to believe strongly in financial sanctions over war but I'm becoming more skeptical. Markets and industry are a very hard thing to constrain at a global scale. To do it effectively you basically encourage a giant financial surveillance state and need put huge pressure on partner countries - who often don't even implement it meaningfully. You make business harder for everyone and create lucrative black market o…

25 years ago, IR scholar Dan Drezner wrote the book _The Sanctions Paradox_ which tried to explain, in an IR theory sort of way, why sanctions are used so often and achieve so little- they don't overthrow governments, they rarely even manage to make governments stop doing the things we don't like. He recently revisited that in FP magazine ( https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/09/10/sanctions-paradox-russi... ) arguing for…

Post by pyuser583 » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 12:07 AM UTC

rufus_foreman wrote: post #121

mandevil wrote: post #66

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25 years ago, IR scholar Dan Drezner wrote the book _The Sanctions Paradox_ which tried to explain, in an IR theory sort of way, why sanctions are used so often and achieve so little- they don't overthrow governments, they rarely even manage to make governments stop doing the things we don't like. He recently revisited that in FP magazine ( https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/09/10/sanctions-paradox-russi... ) arguing for…

>> We've managed to go 80-odd years with a reasonable global norm against redrawing borders What are the current borders of Yugoslavia? Did anybody in the west argue that redrawing the borders of Yugoslavia was against global norms? Did you?

Post by SanjayMehta » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 1:39 AM UTC

svota wrote: post #9

SanjayMehta wrote: post #2

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I feel like TFA answers the fake insurance question pretty well. The company sold "insurance" which was not actually insurance. They were providing a cover for ships selling from a sanctioned country. Those ships were required to have insurance, and no legitimate business would insure them.

Post by SanjayMehta » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 3:19 AM UTC

Insanity wrote: post #65

petsfed wrote: post #62

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The problem with this line of thinking is that home invasion is a different kind of crime from breaking and entering. With breaking and entering, the goal is to get what they can with a minimum of fuss. Locked doors, barking dogs, automatic lights, security systems, etc are all great deterrents, because the goal is to get as much as possible while avoiding capture. The table stakes are that the burglar can get in and…

Agreed with you actually. This might be me not being a native English speaker, and 'home invasion' and 'breaking and entering' where the same thing in my mind. But with the differences between the two that you've highlighted here, I do agree that different situations require different approaches.

Post by fakedang » Sat, Sep 13, 2025, 4:26 AM UTC

throw0101d wrote: post #92

mandevil wrote: post #66

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25 years ago, IR scholar Dan Drezner wrote the book _The Sanctions Paradox_ which tried to explain, in an IR theory sort of way, why sanctions are used so often and achieve so little- they don't overthrow governments, they rarely even manage to make governments stop doing the things we don't like. He recently revisited that in FP magazine ( https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/09/10/sanctions-paradox-russi... ) arguing for…

> 25 years ago, IR scholar Dan Drezner wrote the book _The Sanctions Paradox_ which tried to explain, in an IR theory sort of way, why sanctions are used so often and achieve so little- they don't overthrow governments, they rarely even manage to make governments stop doing the things we don't like. Sanctions are a negative-rate compounding system. Sarah Paine from the US Naval War College: > People look at sanctions…