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Apple Debuts iPhone 17

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Post by xnx »

doctoboggan wrote: post #116

I am looking to upgrade my phone, and at the same time leave my carrier (Verizon). The price I pay for 2 people compared to the price I see out there for other carriers is just too large. Any suggestions for me while I shop around for "tier 2" carriers? I am primarily concerned with price, and then network coverage second (I am OK with sometimes being throttled, but would prefer to avoid large gaps in any coverage).

I've been satisfied with Mint. I look a Google Fi 2x a year, but Mint is still cheaper.

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Post by JKCalhoun »

tra3 wrote: post #15

No Mini. Not surprised. I guess I'm gonna replace the battery in my 13 mini finally. Wonder if we'll ever see folding phones. I'm not concerned with the thickness but the overall foot print that's pocketable would be amazing.

Yeah, are they all large form-factor iPhones now?

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Post by lotsofpulp »

kotaKat wrote: post #63
devrand wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the concern here? Can the phone not just be bought outright?

If I trade in my phone, I want my trade-in offer now . Instead, the full value of whatever trade-in deal provided is split over 36 months as bill credits. While the new phone might actually be “free” in one of these promotions, it’s not, naturally, because you’ve been thrown into a 36 month installment agreement separate of the cellphone service they’ve sold you on (that they also claim is “price locked” while indepe…

Do a little more work and sell it on Facebook Marketplace.

Convenience comes at a cost.

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Post by doctoboggan »

samename wrote: post #117
doctoboggan wrote: post #116

I am looking to upgrade my phone, and at the same time leave my carrier (Verizon). The price I pay for 2 people compared to the price I see out there for other carriers is just too large. Any suggestions for me while I shop around for "tier 2" carriers? I am primarily concerned with price, and then network coverage second (I am OK with sometimes being throttled, but would prefer to avoid large gaps in any coverage).

I use Visible which uses Verizon’s network, at a steep discount. Never had any issues.

Yeah Visible keeps popping up on recommendation threads. I'll take a look at their offers. Do you suggest I buy a phone through them, or purchase from apple directly and bring it to the plan?

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Post by supportengineer »

GeekyBear wrote: post #82

Apple shipping their in-house network silicon (5G cellular, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc) to their wider product line is certainly a long time coming. I would assume this means Apple laptops with integrated cellular modems are on the near horizon.

You just made my heart go pitter-patter

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Post by dmix »

hnalien wrote: post #122

So there is no more 'Plus' version? That was the sweet spot for many - non-pro pricing, yet the same large screen as the pro max. RIP

HN is always saying Apple has too many models where it's hard to choose and how they should go back to a simple line up.

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Post by markhalonen »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #47
giancarlostoro wrote: post #8

I have a 12 Pro, I am definitely going to be upgrading, I've had my phone for 5 years now (since 2020) that's actually longer than I've owned any other cell phone without upgrading. I think I could probably squeeze more life out of my phone, but the 17 has a nicer camera, me and my wife are noticing our relatives with newer iPhones have photographs that look slightly (I meant to write NOTICEABLY here) better. As we r…

The issue with the camera in newer iphones is that it uses an Ai engine to smooth things and add details that aren’t there. If you want reference tier photos for documenting family history, modern mirrorless is better. DSLR from 10-15 years ago is also still great in all but the most challenging light conditions, where you could simply use a flash.

big discussion was had around this a month ago https://candid9.com/phone-camera/

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Post by dijit »

r0fl wrote: post #53
erikw wrote: post #32

I'd be curious to understand their rationale for not making a small, reasonably priced phone like the iPhone SE used to be. I probably will be leaving the iPhone ecosystem the next time I have to buy a smartphone (even though I use a Mac, iPad, and Airpods, which all work together really well) because I'm uninterested in using a large phone. Thinking through my own use case, I just use my phone for messaging, maps, a…

Phones are used to consume content. Bigger screens make consuming content better. Therefore smaller screens do not sell well. The sales back up my statements. Yes I romanticize about an iPhone 17 mini pro but in the end I like being able to watch some downloaded content on a plane without having to bring an iPad from time to time and I'm not going to do that on a tiny screen.

I feel like the sales data would back you up, if it wasn’t for the fact that the 12 and 13 mini were larger than the iPhone 6 and 6S which for many people was too large.

It’s a bit like selling increasingly carbonated water and then selling slightly less carbonated water and pretending that it was still water that you were selling- and using the data (of nobody buying it) to tell everyone that “nobody likes the still water; so we will continue only selling carbonated and carbonated+.”

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Post by cluoma »

onre wrote: post #51

I'm typing this on a 6S Plus, and so far it seems like this'll do until iOS 15 patching stops.

I think I'm throwing in the towel on my 7 Plus this year. I'd love to keep it around for a bit longer but too many apps and websites are no longer functional. It's starting to become a usability issue.
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