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Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Post by gedy »

sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #53
ariwilson wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a more nuanced take here. For low performing or junior employees, remote work was generally a terrible thing that led to less productivity (and more managerial overhead). For strongly performing employees with obligations at home, there were many who preferred working at home. I fall more into the latter camp (at least I hope so) and, given I've only worked in nice offices with catered lunches, gyms, video gam…

Remote work used to be an earned privilege. Then COVID hit and everyone got a taste of it. Including the folks who discovered they could get paid to stay home and play video games and jackin' off during work hours. In a way you could say this group ruined it for everyone. But that's usually how these things go. The hammer comes down on everyone because otherwise it leads to uncomfortable questions like "why does HE g…

> get paid to stay home and play video games and jackin' off during work hours.

Funny that I see the same things from people in toilet stall for 30 minutes at the office. (At least video games and videos..)

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Post by Philadelphia »

tokai wrote: post #66

Commute time should be salaried time. Then the whole office/home work discussion could be taken with the true costs involved.

And workers should be paid to have space to work from home and internet service and food and office supplies and electricity.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Post by bryanlarsen »

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #114
bryanlarsen wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that all GitHub teams are remote, the chance of having a team member at the same office is approximately 0. What's the point of commuting if you're not co-located with team members?

I think you’re trying to logic a situation that is not logical.

Yes, question was rhetorical.

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Post by geodel »

roadside_picnic wrote: post #73
sugarpimpdorsey wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remote work used to be an earned privilege. Then COVID hit and everyone got a taste of it. Including the folks who discovered they could get paid to stay home and play video games and jackin' off during work hours. In a way you could say this group ruined it for everyone. But that's usually how these things go. The hammer comes down on everyone because otherwise it leads to uncomfortable questions like "why does HE g…

> play video games and jackin' off during work hours. Most of the hardest working remote people I've known, and I've worked remote at over 5 companies across two decades, often don't work standard hours. I honestly don't see the problem with someone gaming at 2pm if they're also making sure shit gets deployed at midnight. I also have found that anytime I show up in an actual office it's hilarious how little work actu…

> The people who get nothing done remote, also tend to get nothing done in an office they just create the illusion of it.

Maybe, maybe not but it surely create cost on people to come to office. Just as example person can't just use whole Friday / monday for starting, finishing weekend travel while claiming as working.

For business even if they can't monitor person whole day at work, getting them to workplace and checking status face to face is something better than nothing.

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Post by adamiscool8 »

>We’ve looked at how our teams work best, and the data is clear: when people work together in person more often, they thrive — they are more energized, empowered, and they deliver stronger results.

Citation needed or this is just more vibe-xecutive decree.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Post by geodel »

camdroidw wrote: post #47
ariwilson wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a more nuanced take here. For low performing or junior employees, remote work was generally a terrible thing that led to less productivity (and more managerial overhead). For strongly performing employees with obligations at home, there were many who preferred working at home. I fall more into the latter camp (at least I hope so) and, given I've only worked in nice offices with catered lunches, gyms, video gam…

How would one go about making a policy that rewards high performance with remote work permit?

Times are changing. A couple of years back people would not only work from home but angrily demand that employers need to share all that office cost saving with employees who are working remotely.

Re: Microsoft is officially sending employees back to the office

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Post by datadrivenangel »

adamiscool8 wrote: post #128

>We’ve looked at how our teams work best, and the data is clear: when people work together in person more often, they thrive — they are more energized, empowered, and they deliver stronger results. Citation needed or this is just more vibe-xecutive decree.

They need to be in the offices to collaborate with their offshore counterparts...
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