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Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Post by porridgeraisin »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #74
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Bolt is coming back. Chevy’s reason for discontinuing it wasn’t that it didn’t sell, but that the platform was outdated. The new one is on their current platform and roughly analogous to the old EUV model. Pricing is another question though, and no CarPlay/AA while also coming from an old guard auto manufacturer means no sale from me.

Being a GM product, the Bolt won’t have CarPlay either.

Whys that? I've never seen a car having only one out of android auto and carplay.

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Post by randycupertino »

lgleason wrote: post #45

Boring lineup, Lack of recent innovation, poor repairability and a CEO who has alienated people on both sides of the political isle. The 1 trillion dollar package the board is offering Musk is a joke. They need to find a new CEO.

I low key have a conspiracy theory that the "1 trillion dollar pay package" is just Tesla PR fluff - smoke and mirrors to steal attention away from the poorly performing cybertruck sales and falling stock. If they spin news with dramatic flair highlighting Musk’s bonkers pay package it's a distraction from Tesla’s more immediate and tangible troubles, political alienation of their buyers and ongoing regulatory and manufacturing operational crises.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Post by guicen »

Technically, I respect what Tesla has achieved, especially in terms of progress with autonomous driving. But honestly, every time I come across another report of a safety incident, it makes me hesitate. Even if it's a statistical issue, when it happens to you, it's 100%.

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Post by hyperadvanced »

Fomite wrote: post #94
rcdemski wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Again, politics aside, I just find the lineup boring. Every model outside the Cybertruck looks like a ten year old car. Even the refresh of the model Y is still reskinning a design language started with the Model S, but with any interesting soul stripped out to reduce cost. The nerd in me loves the technology, particularly behind the scenes features of the Cybertruck like 48v architecture. In the end I want to drive…

This. None of them make me go "Damn, that's a good looking car..." any more than a number of others. The Cybertruck is just am embarrassment, design wise.

OTOH, Cybertruck is one of the only original car designs in modern memory. It’s dumb as hell, but I like it. That said, I have no idea who it’s for, I wouldn’t buy one. But I respect them for designing such a ridiculous vehicle, and for it actually being able to sell, albeit somewhat poorly compared to expectations.

I say all of this as a recent $TSLA bear with a healthy short position.

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Post by hyperadvanced »

SoftTalker wrote: post #95
rayiner wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My wife thinks they all look like jellybeans. Tesla makes them like that to maximize efficiency, and they’re still #1 on that metric, but people don’t care about that.

All cars made in the last 20 years look like that. It’s wind tunnel design, there’s only one optimal overall shape that a car can have.

I have seen this described as “looksmaxxing for cars” and I can’t unsee it now.

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Post by FireBeyond »

leetharris wrote: post #6

The whole EV market is growing and everyone is racing to buy one before incentives run out. The article is framed as a hit piece and even has political statements in it. But here is an exact quote from the article: "Sales of new EVs jumped more than 24% month over month in July to 128,268, according to the Cox data, driven by the looming end of a $7,500 tax credit for EVs and attractive deals. Tesla saw sales rise 7%…

Why are you calling this a hit piece? It's literally talking about falling market share in the title, which is absolutely accurate. Even the quote you tried to use as evidence of the hit piece says as much: "Sales rise, even as market share falls".

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Post by adrr »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #52
adrr wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still the best EVs on the market in terms of range, performance and price(in the US). Chevy bolt competitor wouldn’t make sense because Chevy couldn’t even make the chevy bolt work and stopped production 2023. EV trucks don’t make sense at all, they can’t tow unless you want to recharge every 100 miles. Also range is severely reduced offroading. I don’t get why auto manufacturers keep pushing them on the public. Tesl…

The Bolt is coming back. Chevy’s reason for discontinuing it wasn’t that it didn’t sell, but that the platform was outdated. The new one is on their current platform and roughly analogous to the old EUV model. Pricing is another question though, and no CarPlay/AA while also coming from an old guard auto manufacturer means no sale from me.

Normally when you have a popular car, you don't pull it from the market. Tesla hasn't pulled any of their products. Has a company ever done that? They sold it at a loss and now trying to make it profitable with LFP batteries and other cost cutting. I still doubt its coming out.

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Post by FireBeyond »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #49
to11mtm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like the thing where Telsa magically sold a not-really-logical number of vehicles in Canada when subsidies were running out there?

If you follow up on the story, Tesla was cleared of all wrong doing after an investigation. Tesla did sell that number of vehicles, they just were very behind on filing for the incentives, but still within the program guidelines. Once the government announced that the incentives were running low, they filed all of their backlog at once. I love to hate on Elon as much as the next person, but everything was above board…

I think there's something else going on there, although yes, that was the statement.

> Tesla’s head of sales for Canada, emphasized in a March 28 letter that the filings followed program guidelines, which allowed post-delivery submissions despite recommendations for pre-delivery assessments.

but this alludes to something more:

> Despite the clearance, Tesla will still be excluded from future iZEV programs

Huh. Why, I wonder?

Re: Tesla market share in US drops to lowest since 2017

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Post by toast0 »

yalogin wrote: post #62

This is expected. Tesla enjoyed a more than a decade long position as the leader. Even now it’s a strong pick because of the extensive charging network they built. No other company comes close, and this charging network will reap recurring revenue for them. However the cars themselves are really shitty. I mean really bad for quality and do not offer any aesthetic value either, they appear very plain and generic at th…

> Even now it’s a strong pick because of the extensive charging network they built. No other company comes close, and this charging network will reap recurring revenue for them.

Didn't they fire the team behind the charging network a while ago? How has it been since then?

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