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Clankers Die on Christmas

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Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#121

I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal.

It's a way of asserting human supremacy. Perhaps a way of pre-emptively undermining the possibility of establishing social norms requiring being polite and compassionate toward machines. That's just a guess on my part, but if it's even partly true, it's totally worth it IMO.

You should see how I speak to my table saw.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#122

I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal.

It's a way of asserting human supremacy. Perhaps a way of pre-emptively undermining the possibility of establishing social norms requiring being polite and compassionate toward machines. That's just a guess on my part, but if it's even partly true, it's totally worth it IMO.

> a way of pre-emptively undermining the possibility of establishing social norms requiring being polite and compassionate toward machines

Absolutely this,and it's worth. Imagine DEI training for being rude to ChatGPT.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#123

For others who, like me, didn't know what "clankers" are: it appears it's a popular derogatory term for robots or AI, arising from the Star Wars universe where clone troopers used the term as a derogatory term for droids.

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Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#124

I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal.

You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat inanimate objects, or 'lesser' life forms like plants.

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Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#125

I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal.

You can tell a lot about a person by how they treat inanimate objects, or 'lesser' life forms like plants.

I treat inanimate objects with all due respect. In my opinion of course. In cases like musical instruments, that manifests in one way.

I think that LLM chatbots are fundamentally built on a deception or dark pattern, and respect them accordingly. They are built to communicate using and mimicking human language. They are built to act human, but they are not.

If someone tries to trick me into subscribing to offers from valued business partners, I will take that into account. If someone tries to take advantage of my human reactions to human language, I will also take that into account accordingly.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#126

I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal.

>I must admit I’m a little unnerved with how gleefully people enjoy using a fake slur. I realize it doesn’t harm anyone but I just don’t get the appeal. I think there's a clear sociological pattern here that explains the appeal. It maps almost perfectly onto the thesis of David Roediger's "The Wages of Whiteness." His argument was that poor white workers in the 19th century, despite their own economic exploitation, r…

This is an interesting perspective that I have not heard before. I have to think about it... Thanks for the insightful comment

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#127

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Meh, God allegedly made us in his image, so it's only logical that we would create machines in our image. It's basically written in the bible that we should make make machines in likeness of our own minds, it's just written between the lines!

No, it's not logical: we're not gods, only human, all too human.

But we're allegedly made in god's image. Doesn't that imply that we'd attempt to do all the things he did? Like creating a lesser life form in our image, for example.

Seems logical to me

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

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Whoops. Looks like my blog published a bit earlier than expected. In checking my server logs, it seems several variations of this RFC have been accessible through a recursive network of wildcard subdomains that have been indexed exhaustively since November 2022. Sorry about that!

For those of us who are particularly slow: care to cheekily hint at whether this is sincerely intended as satire or not...? In other words, first-order or second-order? First I saw you use "global health crisis" to describe AI psychosis which seems like something one would only conceive of out of genuine hatred of AI, but then a bit later you include the RFC that unintentionally bans everything from Jinja templates t…

> First I saw you use "global health crisis" to describe AI psychosis which seems like something one would only conceive of out of genuine hatred of AI

I’m mildly positive on AI but fully believe that AI psychosis is a thing based on having 1 friend and 1 cousin who have gone completely insane with LLMs, to the point where 1 of them refuses to converse with anyone including in person. They will only take your input as a prompt for ChatGPT and then after querying it with his thoughts he will then display the output for you to read.

Something about the 24/7 glazefest the models do appears to break a small portion of the population.

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#129
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Sorry? What do you mean? I can't answer your confusion if I don't understand it.

Are there people genuinely concerned about slurs against autocomplete computer programs?

Apparently. See, for example, https://www.salon.com/2025/08/19/is-clanker-a-slur-anti-robo...

Re: Clankers Die on Christmas

#130
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Maybe you're in different circles than me, but the term clankers is very well known at this point in all my groups, including non tech adjacent people. Everyone makes jokes about clankers and it's caught on like wildfire.

it's known in my circles too, but it's one of those words known as a cringe-inducer. like 'broligarchy' or 'trad'. but going off of other social trends like this that probably means it's mega popular and about to be the next over-used phrases across the universe.

Adding to the ancedata, it’s used in my circles primarily by non techie people and as a proxy for bosses using them to replace workers.

“Digital scab” would be synonymous with the way they use it

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