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How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by RT-Saber »

jamedjo wrote: post #114

> Attribution Scenarios: Option A: DPRK Operator Embedded in PRC > Use of Korean language, OCR targeting of Korean documents, and focus on GPKI systems strongly suggest North Korean origin. I'm don't follow how needing OCR to read Korean documents points to them being North Korean? Could also point in the opposite direction of them needing to copy the text for translation.

We believe KIM is Chinese but working for both Chinese and North Korean interests/governments, he speaks only very little Korean, he translates Korean websites into simplified Chinese using Google Translate and use OCR to translate Korean documents into Chinese.

Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by corimaith »

MangoToupe wrote: post #117
corimaith wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Panama 92% of Panamans supported the invasion to despose Noreiga and actually would have preferred the US do it earlier back during his second coup. Truth be speaking, I would where you are getting your history, if not just from skewed leftist internet Podcasters. Not mentioning the larger context of the Cold War and the opinions of the people on the ground does look more like lying by omission.

I read history books like anyone else, the cold war was just straight retarded, and we trained Noriega (at the very school I already linked to). Furthermore just because I want someone to invade and liberate us doesn't mean it's not a violation of international law and sovereignty.

>The cold war was just straight retarded

That's not an opinion that most will agree with, certainly from the USSR and the USA's own perspectives. I do wonder the kind of grades one would get if they wrote that down in a history class in any nation. And the more you understand history, both US and the USSR's actions do make perfect sense given their local contexts that most would be making the same decisions in the same position.

>I want someone to invade and liberate us doesn't mean it's not a violation of international law and sovereignty.

I tend to think more about what is the best course of action that benefits the people on the ground and the long term. The idea of sancrosanctity of "sovereignity" is better understood as a social construct to justify oppressive power structures, as it's reflection in reality is highly contentious. The same with International Law, you are taking a literalist position when International Law is better understood as gentlemen's agreements, which is irrelevant in the context of the ontological conflict between two sides that supercedes the notion of law in the first place.

Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by jamedjo »

Thorrez wrote: post #116
jamedjo wrote: post #114

> Attribution Scenarios: Option A: DPRK Operator Embedded in PRC > Use of Korean language, OCR targeting of Korean documents, and focus on GPKI systems strongly suggest North Korean origin. I'm don't follow how needing OCR to read Korean documents points to them being North Korean? Could also point in the opposite direction of them needing to copy the text for translation.

Their shell history shows them using OCR tools. AFAIK it doesn't show them using translation tools.

Fair, and appears I missed the first part "Use of Korean language".

The OCR still tells us more about the target than the actor, but I guess they are suggesting the choice of target itself is the indicator.

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Post by the_af »

wkat4242 wrote: post #107
the_af wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I recently read/watched videos about the "population time bomb" in South Korea and how it's almost irreversible now. It really surprised me, it's one of those things that's hard to visualize. And it's not even long term!

They can always allow more immigration. National populations don't grow only by births.

Apparently, due to cultural, political and economical issues, South Korea cannot/won't do this. I suppose it theoretically could, but in practice it would mean it would cease to exist as it is now.

Due to the scale of their population collapse, the influx of immigrants would have to be massive. Which country does that? It would completely overtake its native ethnic population... which unlike a country built on immigration like the US, is surprisingly homogeneous.

I'm no expert, I encourage you to read on the matter. It apparently truly is something that cannot be stopped now. It surprised me as much as it (apparently) does you.

By the way, countries that are better off, like the US, are largely helped by immigration indeed. Which is why anti-immigration policies would be like shooting themselves in the foot.

Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by [deleted] »

corimaith wrote: post #108
churchill wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this comment downvoted? You have the right to see China, USSR and NK as immoral regimes but there's nothing non-factual here.

The causality between missiles in Turkey causing the Cuban Missile Crisis is unsubstantiated by historical facts from the Soviets own perspectives. It's more that Cuba requested nukes first, the USSR opportunistically took, then they to resolve the crisis they took that opportunity to remove Turkish missiles. It wasn't really a tit for tat on part of the USSR's intentions, Cuba was the primary agent here. Not that it…

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Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by wkat4242 »

the_af wrote: post #124
wkat4242 wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They can always allow more immigration. National populations don't grow only by births.

Apparently, due to cultural, political and economical issues, South Korea cannot/won't do this. I suppose it theoretically could, but in practice it would mean it would cease to exist as it is now. Due to the scale of their population collapse, the influx of immigrants would have to be massive. Which country does that? It would completely overtake its native ethnic population... which unlike a country built on immigr…

> I suppose it theoretically could, but in practice it would mean it would cease to exist as it is now.

But it's going to cease to exist as it is anyway. One way or another. And the people that remain will not be staring at a wall waiting for it to end. Also, young people seem to have a radically different mindset there, which is what tends to happen when they see their parents screwing everything up.

Maybe the culture isn't there yet but it will be. Having said that, I would never be happy to live in a country with strict moral codes like Japan or South Korea. But I'm sure many people would be. In particular conservatives tend to love these societies, you often hear comments like "this is what we should do here in the US".

I'm a raging pro-lgbt polyamorous kinky progressive so for me it would be the wrong place. But there are lots of people that would love this kind of thing.

Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by the_af »

wkat4242 wrote: post #126
the_af wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, due to cultural, political and economical issues, South Korea cannot/won't do this. I suppose it theoretically could, but in practice it would mean it would cease to exist as it is now. Due to the scale of their population collapse, the influx of immigrants would have to be massive. Which country does that? It would completely overtake its native ethnic population... which unlike a country built on immigr…

> I suppose it theoretically could, but in practice it would mean it would cease to exist as it is now. But it's going to cease to exist as it is anyway. One way or another. And the people that remain will not be staring at a wall waiting for it to end. Also, young people seem to have a radically different mindset there, which is what tends to happen when they see their parents screwing everything up. Maybe the cultu…

I mean, I don't know what to tell you. You seem to be reacting in disbelief, "this cannot be true".

But reality shows it is happening, it is accelerating, and young people are part of the problem.

It's a real thing, and the consensus seems to be it's irreversible, however bizarre it may seem to us.

Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by jmyeet »

corimaith wrote: post #108
churchill wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is this comment downvoted? You have the right to see China, USSR and NK as immoral regimes but there's nothing non-factual here.

The causality between missiles in Turkey causing the Cuban Missile Crisis is unsubstantiated by historical facts from the Soviets own perspectives. It's more that Cuba requested nukes first, the USSR opportunistically took, then they to resolve the crisis they took that opportunity to remove Turkish missiles. It wasn't really a tit for tat on part of the USSR's intentions, Cuba was the primary agent here. Not that it…

From Khrushchev's own words (27 October 1962) [1]:

> Your missiles are located in Britain, are located in Italy, and are aimed against us. Your missiles are located in Turkey.

> You are disturbed over Cuba. You say that this disturbs you because it is 90 miles by sea from the coast of the United States of America. But Turkey adjoins us; our sentries patrol back and forth and see each other. Do you consider, then, that you have the right to demand security for your own country and the removal of the weapons you call offensive, but do not accord the same right to us? You have placed destructive missile weapons, which you call offensive, in Turkey, literally next to us. How then can recognition of our equal military capacities be reconciled with such unequal relations between our great states? This is irreconcilable.

According to General Boris Surikov [2]:

> 'Khrushchev and his Defence Minister, Rodion Malinovsky, were at Khrushchev's estate on the Black Sea. They went for a walk and Malinovsky pointed in the direction of Turkey and said: 'That's where the American rockets are pointing at us. They need only 10 minutes to reach our cities, but our rockets need 25 minutes to reach America.' Khrushchev thought for a while and then said: 'Why don't we instal our rockets in Cuba and point them at the Americans? Then we'll need only 10 minutes, too.'

This article goes on to quote the Soviet Ambassador to Cuba, Alexander Alexeyev, who was a direct witness and a go-between between Khrushchev and Castro:

> 'On 14 May 1962 I was called to a meeting of the Defence Council at the Kremlin. Khrushchev said, in effect: 'Comrades, I think it would be a good idea to instal rockets in Cuba. Do it clandestinely. I don't want it known in the US until November (after the mid-term Congressional elections). Alexander Alexeyev, how will Fidel react when we present him with our decision?'

[1]: https://microsites.jfklibrary.org/cmc/oct27/doc4.html

[2]: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-cuban-missile-crisi...

Re: How the “Kim” dump exposed North Korea's credential theft playbook

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Post by bornfreddy »

codedokode wrote: post #127

Why everyone working with the government doesn't use hardware keys without passwords so that fishing is useless?

Because hardware keys are so 2000 - we have apps now. With Play Protect Premium Enterprise to make sure the phone is secure. /s
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