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Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by collingreen »

dlivingston wrote: post #88
socrates1998 wrote: post #25

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The sole reason I'm still on Twitter/X is that it's still ground zero for the startup scene. Paul Graham, Sam Altman, Garry Tan, and thousands of other VCs, CEOs, founders, and engineers are highly active and visible. Also, I cannot stand BlueSky, as much I want to like it. There's this intense moralizing and pile-on culture that reminds me of the worst of pre-Musk Twitter. I'll never forget joining BlueSky late last…

Thanks for the anecdote (honestly; this isn't snark). I haven't used bluesky and I like to see people's perspectives. Do you have any links to the inoffensive stuff that people thought was fascist?

Also are these official lists or are you just saying "someone out there put my account on their own list of accounts they don't like"? I dont know how the platform works and if its the first then wow but if its the second then I'm reading your comment and subsequent actions differently.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by pinkmuffinere »

internetter wrote: post #79
ebrugulec123 wrote: post #19

Even if X is acting under a court order in Turkey, the shadow-ban–like behavior on a global platform is concerning. Hiding posts algorithmically goes beyond legal compliance and raises serious questions about whether X is protecting free speech or quietly facilitating censorship.

AI comment?

It does feel AI, but Ebru Guleç is also a _very_ Turkish name. It could be somebody who doesn’t have the best English is using ai to put together a coherent sentence.

Regardless of the origin, I’d prefer if the comment make an actual claim, instead of just talking about “questions raised”. I wish they’d try to answer the question they detect lol

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by blaufuchs »

fourseventy wrote: post #11

X's stated goal is to comply with the laws of any given country that it operates in. As the article states, there is a court order to restrict that particular users account https://x.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1920426409358455081 . This is a nothing burger.

At this point I think we can safely retire “nothing burger”, can’t remember the last time it meant something other than “an inconvenient story for my narrative that I’d rather gloss over”

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by numpad0 »

TRiG_Ireland wrote: post #106
numpad0 wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

imo the bigger talking point is that Twitter post-acquisition has been working pathetically to curb organic buzzes in favor of manufactured trends, even harder than its previous left-leaning management. Effect of that being observed in Turkish politics is a downstream issue to that. Twitter's strict "fun wins" algorithm of past seem like it had been a major driver in e.g. Arab Spring.

The idea that a large company has ever "leaned left" in any real sense is a bit ridiculous.

I would argue that Twitter pre-acquisiton had elements of inferiority-complex-driven-correct-isms and tryhard leftism. Not necessarily that I disagree with that biasing especially with what happened to it since. Their intents back then were 120% innocent, just occasionally un-ideal as nothing ever is perfect.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by NelsonMinar »

declan_roberts wrote: post #30
socrates1998 wrote: post #25

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How do you measure viable? Twitter is still the best place to hear and read about breaking news.

Well, some breaking news at least. The kind that's flattering to a certain political mindset.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by dlivingston »

collingreen wrote: post #121
dlivingston wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The sole reason I'm still on Twitter/X is that it's still ground zero for the startup scene. Paul Graham, Sam Altman, Garry Tan, and thousands of other VCs, CEOs, founders, and engineers are highly active and visible. Also, I cannot stand BlueSky, as much I want to like it. There's this intense moralizing and pile-on culture that reminds me of the worst of pre-Musk Twitter. I'll never forget joining BlueSky late last…

Thanks for the anecdote (honestly; this isn't snark). I haven't used bluesky and I like to see people's perspectives. Do you have any links to the inoffensive stuff that people thought was fascist? Also are these official lists or are you just saying "someone out there put my account on their own list of accounts they don't like"? I dont know how the platform works and if its the first then wow but if its the second…

My BlueSky account has long been deleted, so I don't have any links. But as a frame of reference, my "hot takes" were very much in the Ezra Klein / Derek Thompson opinion space - something you may disagree with, but 600 miles away from fascism etc.

> Also are these official lists

No, user-created & shareable block lists. IIRC this one had a few thousand "followers".

Some tweets that sort of reflect my experience:

- https://x.com/lxeagle17/status/1962675736780906900

- https://x.com/dhaaruni/status/1962680043005690165

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by loeg »

KerrAvon wrote: post #57
loeg wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Twitter is still the best of the twitter clones.

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What a condescending viewpoint, that imagines I wholly lack agency, and you somehow have it and are above influence. And that seemingly lumps in any perspective right of center with fascism. This is excessively reductive, and this simplistic worldview isn't doing you any favors.

You can curate the content you see on Twitter, and I'm not interested in fascist content. It's as easy as that. A certain population of Blueskyers like yourself are extremely over-dramatic about the political content of Twitter, which hasn't changed all that much from five years ago.

Re: Twitter Shadow Bans Turkish Presidential Candidate

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Post by ozgrakkurt »

raziel2p wrote: post #104
lysace wrote: post #89

The problem here is primarily Erdogan and secondarily Musk.

The world might have people like Erdogan hold less powerful positions if large social platforms like Twitter didn't enable populism and suppression so easily.

Don’t agree with this. People really want to elect these politicians and they significantly represent the culture.

There can be an element of force to how they win but it is not the whole picture.

Have to accept that there are a lot of people with reasons to support these politicians

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