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New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
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Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the 'indefinite' part that I react negatively to. I don't have a good impression of people who are obsessed with abolishing death, as opposed to your example of maximizing quality of life (or minimizing illness) without getting too hung up on overall age.
The person just said aging isn't a law of physics. They are right, you are the fool here.
Actually they said: "Aging isn’t a law of nature." But it kind of is. Almost all biological organisms age and the ones that don't are much simpler than us. That's not to mention entropy which is both a law of physics and dictates an inescapable form of aging for the universe as a whole.
Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
The person just said aging isn't a law of physics. They are right, you are the fool here.
Actually they said: "Aging isn’t a law of nature." But it kind of is. Almost all biological organisms age and the ones that don't are much simpler than us. That's not to mention entropy which is both a law of physics and dictates an inescapable form of aging for the universe as a whole.
They also said there isn't a physical reason, that is often meant to mean "it isn't a law of physics".
The fact that something happens doesn't mean it's a law of anything. Cars didn't exist before we built them - no law of "no cars". People died of TB before we had a cure - no law of "TB". Same for various types of cancer.
In practice when someone says "live forever", they don't mean to imply they'll live the 10^100 (or whatever the guestimates are) years to the end of the universe. They mean they'll stop aging in the sense that we do now. Maybe we could live to 10,000 or 50,000 or whatever. You can always get hit by a bus, or get some strange disease from a bat, or whatever.
Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
#124Is it just genetic? On my father’s side, people typically live to 100 at a minimum and are perfectly healthy mentally and physically right up till a week or so before they die. My grandmother is 103 and can still lives alone in her house and can walk unassisted, has a memory sharp as anything, and so on. Maybe look at long lived families and figure out what is different about them?
Maybe living the blue zone [1] lifestyle?
Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
#125What about quality of life adjusted life years? I don’t want to live to 100 and be miserable for the last 30 But if you can get me 90 years where I feel like a spring chicken until 89, then that’s just fine.
You may feel differently when you get there. Be careful of present you making decisions about future you.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Consider that some people have gotten past it, and that it's not a "cope". Enlightenment is real even if it horrifies you because you aren't there yet.
I've visited that space before. Its greatest tragedy isn't the ideas it births, but how seductive the nihilism becomes. You recognize its smallness once you've outgrown it.
If it's nihilism, it's not enlightenment! There is still/more meaning in impermanence.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Odd then that every living thing ages and eventually dies?
This is not true and easily countered by any sort of investigation. Lobsters, flatworms, immortal jellyfish and hydras are all believed to be immortal. In fact we know how to live forever, control our telomeres. We know it works because cancer exists. We just can’t control it but controlled cancer is effectively immortality.
Lobsters die of old age when they fail to molt, become trapped in their shells, and starve. The lobster body plan does not scale indefinitely. Presumably at a certain point they'd boil in their own metabolic heat.
Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
#128Is it just genetic? On my father’s side, people typically live to 100 at a minimum and are perfectly healthy mentally and physically right up till a week or so before they die. My grandmother is 103 and can still lives alone in her house and can walk unassisted, has a memory sharp as anything, and so on. Maybe look at long lived families and figure out what is different about them?
Maybe living the blue zone [1] lifestyle? [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_zone
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Re: New research reveals longevity gains slowing, life expectancy of 100 unlikely
#129Is it just genetic? On my father’s side, people typically live to 100 at a minimum and are perfectly healthy mentally and physically right up till a week or so before they die. My grandmother is 103 and can still lives alone in her house and can walk unassisted, has a memory sharp as anything, and so on. Maybe look at long lived families and figure out what is different about them?
I think it's just plus or minus 10 years for whatever fate (genetics) had in store for you. That plus or minus being the little we can control (diet/activity).
I think you can safely double that to plus or minus 20 years for what "little" we can control.