For another fun one: .weather is entirely owned by the weather channel...
How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
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Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#122Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Vatican is a country, so it gets a ccTLD.
I don't understand why the Vatican is considered a country, besides as a quirk of history. It is smaller than high school campus nearest my house, is not a UN member, and seems to exist solely as a tax haven. It also has no native citizens. No person has been born in Vatican City in a century and even if you pop out a baby in Vatican City and are you yourself a Vatican City resident and citizen, the baby is not a cit…
>I don't understand why the Vatican is considered a country
It isn't a country and nobody says that it is. The Holy See is sovereign entity with unique status under international law; the status of the Vatican City is derived from the status of the Holy See. It enjoys that status because practically all countries believe that it should do so.
All relevant parties believe that the Vatican City should be treated as if it's a state, therefore it enjoys the rights and responsibilities of a state, even though it technically isn't one. That is fundamentally how international law works - it's a system of agreements between countries and practice established by historical precedent. The status of the Holy See and the Vatican City is quirky, but that doesn't make it illegitimate.
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's also .va for the Vatican and .lds for the Mormon faith (and .mormon), and more generic Christian ones like .church. I didn't find any for other religions on a casual search, perhaps because many of them don't have the same degree of centralization.
The Vatican is a country, so it gets a ccTLD.
I am wondering if the Albanian government’s plan to give independence to the Tirana HQ of the Bektashi Sufi Order is ever actually going to happen. If it does, then they’ll be the world’s second country dedicated to a religion… well, currently Iran is a Twelver Shi’a theocracy, but Iran had a long history before it was theocracy, and maybe one day won’t be one anymore; Vatican City and the proposed “Bektashi Muslim Vatican” are countries whose existence is inseparable from being HQ of a religious group.
The odd thing about giving the Bektashis a “Muslim Vatican”, is they are a tiny minuscule sect within Islam, and many conservative Muslims will say “they aren’t Muslims at all”
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't understand why the Vatican is considered a country, besides as a quirk of history. It is smaller than high school campus nearest my house, is not a UN member, and seems to exist solely as a tax haven. It also has no native citizens. No person has been born in Vatican City in a century and even if you pop out a baby in Vatican City and are you yourself a Vatican City resident and citizen, the baby is not a cit…
>I don't understand why the Vatican is considered a country It isn't a country and nobody says that it is. The Holy See is sovereign entity with unique status under international law; the status of the Vatican City is derived from the status of the Holy See. It enjoys that status because practically all countries believe that it should do so. All relevant parties believe that the Vatican City should be treated as if…
> It isn't a country and nobody says that it is.
Well, the CIA says it is: https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/countries/holy-see-va...
> The Holy See is sovereign entity with unique status under international law; the status of the Vatican City is derived from the status of the Holy See. It enjoys that status because practically all countries believe that it should do so.
I am only an amateur international lawyer, ask a real one for a more confident answer: but my own understanding is this-the subjects of international law are (1) sovereign states, (2) international organisations established by treaty, (3) sui generis entities; Vatican City is technically an instance of (1) and the Holy See is an instance of (3), and they are technically two distinct subjects of international law, despite having a common sovereign - at least, that’s what I’m pretty sure the Vatican’s own international lawyers will argue… as subjects of international law, both are capable of being parties to treaties, but (generally speaking) the Holy See joins treaties of global interest, Vatican City joins treaties regarding matters of local concern to its own territory. As to where they get this status from, the answer is-customary international law
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
This requiring it to be open to everybody is an odd wish, to me. It would seem to discourage something that I don't think is a harm to anyone else: Getting your brand as a TLD (.google being a great example). Google has a trademark on "Google," so no one else can make non-mischeivous use of .google anyway. If they had to let random internet critics and trolls register theworst.google and ihate.google they just wouldn…
Well it's tricky. I don't really have a problem with google owning the .google TLD, because that is a pretty unique name, and is unlikely to be useful for anything besides unrelated to Google. Similarly for .walmart or .microsoft. But .apple is a problem, because it is a common English word, and it isn't unreasonable for say an apple orchard, or an apple cider company to want a .apple domain. Similarly for other bran…
Is it tricky? If you have a trademark, you can have a gTLD - simple as that.
Because the problem is how can apple have a trademark on the word “apple”?
For me, the same rules should be enforced for trademarks because an apple orchard might also like to have a trademark but that’s difficult because “apple” is already a trademark.
Edit: as pointed out in the comments, this position doesn't take into account that trademarks are very much national and cultural.
Perhaps one day gTLDs will become free (once the gold rush is over) just as SSL/TLS certificates did with the arrival of Lets Encrypt.
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well it's tricky. I don't really have a problem with google owning the .google TLD, because that is a pretty unique name, and is unlikely to be useful for anything besides unrelated to Google. Similarly for .walmart or .microsoft. But .apple is a problem, because it is a common English word, and it isn't unreasonable for say an apple orchard, or an apple cider company to want a .apple domain. Similarly for other bran…
Is it tricky? If you have a trademark, you can have a gTLD - simple as that. Because the problem is how can apple have a trademark on the word “apple”? For me, the same rules should be enforced for trademarks because an apple orchard might also like to have a trademark but that’s difficult because “apple” is already a trademark. Edit: as pointed out in the comments, this position doesn't take into account that tradem…
Trademarks are not globally unique (even within a single country!).
A good example of this is the long running legal dispute between Apple Computer and Apple Music, who each held a trademark on "Apple" in their respective domains, and which prevented the Beatles from playing on iTunes for a decade...
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#127Anything besides the classic .com, .org, .net, .gov, or well-known ccTLDs usually gets ignored as spam in my search results, so for me, however much they paid for an unusual TLD was of negative value.
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well it's tricky. I don't really have a problem with google owning the .google TLD, because that is a pretty unique name, and is unlikely to be useful for anything besides unrelated to Google. Similarly for .walmart or .microsoft. But .apple is a problem, because it is a common English word, and it isn't unreasonable for say an apple orchard, or an apple cider company to want a .apple domain. Similarly for other bran…
Is it tricky? If you have a trademark, you can have a gTLD - simple as that. Because the problem is how can apple have a trademark on the word “apple”? For me, the same rules should be enforced for trademarks because an apple orchard might also like to have a trademark but that’s difficult because “apple” is already a trademark. Edit: as pointed out in the comments, this position doesn't take into account that tradem…
You seem to be missing that trademarks are generally context specific
E.g. Apple has a trademark in the context of technology but not in the context of farming
Whereas gTLDs are flat namespace
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
yes blame. ofcourse it matters. tld use to be good insight into the purpose of the website. IE, google.com, or wikipedia.org
With some exceptions (.gov, .edu, for example), it has never actually meant anything. Anyone can register a .com, .net, or .org for any purpose.
I thought com/net/org had distinct use cases until the early 1990s when it became a free-for-all.
Re: How did .agakhan, .ismaili and .imamat get their own TLDs?
#130.george is a pretty funny one. apparently Walmart owns it, so you probably won't be able to register a .george domain any time soon. https://icannwiki.org/.george do companies even use these in the wild or are they buying these TLDs for nothing? ".brother", ".canon", ".nokia", ".panasonic", ".playstation", ".xbox", ".xerox"... there's even ".sandvikcoromant", which is some sort of Swedish metalwork company.
George is the clothing brand of the ASDA supermarket chain in the UK, which Walmart used to own. I'm not sure if it's a brand they use worldwide though; I don't really go to Walmart when in the US. Either way, that's why they own it, presumably.
When a supermarket's own clothing brand has its own TLD. What a time to be alive.
Just checked underpants.george and, disappointingly, it's not being used.