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Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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In a similar vein I can barely find an OS that refuses to connect to the internet

Wouldn't the more correct analogy be a text editor without "Klippy?"

too many of them these days: https://kakoune.org/

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Doesn't have to. The LLM will do it! We're done with code, aren't we?

Code is still there, but humans are done dealing with it. We're at a higher level of abstraction now. LLMs are like compilers, operating at a higher level. Nobody programs assembly language any more, much less machine language, even though the machine language is still down there in the end.

> Nobody programs assembly language

They certainly do, and I can't really follow the analogy you are building.

> We're at a higher level of abstraction now.

To me, an abstraction higher than a programming language would be natural language or some DSL that approximates it.

At the moment, I don't think most people using LLMs are reading paragraphs to maintain code. And LLMs aren't producing code in natural language.

That isn't abstraction over language, it is an abstraction over your computer use to make the code in language. If anything, you are abstracting yourself away.

Furthermore, if I am following you, you are basically saying, you have to make a call to a (free or paid) model to explain your code every time you want to alter it.

I don't know how insane that sounds to most people, but to me, it sounds bat-shit.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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They also upgraded the GPT-4.1 (actually a special Apple variant) to GPT-5 by default, with the option to use GPT-5-thinking, using your ChatGPT subscription. I don't know if it's a special Apple variant of GPT-5 but this is a big upgrade and more exciting than Sonnet 3.7.

I also wonder if it will have separate rate limits from ChatGPT (app/web) and Codex CLI (which currently has its own rate limits).

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Interesting to think about how Apple get to make product decisions based on Gatekeeper OCSP analytics now that every app launch phones home. They must know exactly how popular VSCode is. Facebook got excoriated for doing that with Onavo but I guess it's Good Actually when it's done in the name of protecting my computer from myself lol

This won't make a dent. It still doesn't support any agentic operation.

The real news is when Codex CLI / Claude Code get integrated, or Apple introduces a competitor offering to them.

Until then this is a toy and should not be used for any serious work while these far better tools exist.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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I have been trying to make iOS/macOS apps for years, but god, every time I have a go at it, Apple's documentation regime is still hot garbage. Eons ago I gave up Windows development because of Microsoft's inconsistent and uncertain APIs, but MS had great documentation. Apple is the opposite.

The "best" way to get the "latest" details on Apple's APIs is to suffer through mind-numbingly vapid WWDC videos with their reverse uncanny valley presenters (where humans pretend to be robots) and keep your full attention on them to catch a fleeting glimpse of a single method or property that does what you were looking for. Even 1.5x/2x speed is torture. I tried to get AIs to sift through the transcripts of their videos, and may Skynet forgive me for this cruelty.

Then when you go try to use that API, oops it's been changed in the current beta and there's no further documentation on it except auto-generated headers.

They also removed bookmarks from Xcode's built-in documentation browser years ago, and it doesn't retain a memory of previously open tabs, and often seems to be behind the docs on their websites.

I wish they would just provide open-source sample apps of each type (document-based, single-window etc.) for each of their platforms that fully use the latest APIs. At least that would be easier to ask AIs on, since that is what they seem to be going for now anyway.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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They both support it via plugins. Xcode doesn’t enable it by default, you need to enable it and sign into an account. It’s not really all that different.

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Yes. I am so worried as well. This is why I installed an AI to double-check if the password I entered is correct when logging in. Fight fire with fire

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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They both support it via plugins. Xcode doesn’t enable it by default, you need to enable it and sign into an account. It’s not really all that different.

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What commonly gets installed in those cases is actual malware, a RAT (Remote Admin Tool) that lets the attacker later run commands on your laptop (kinda like an OpenSSH server, but also punching a hole through nat and with a server that they can broadcast commands broadly to the entire fleet).

If the attacker wants to use AI to assist in looking for valuables on your machine, they won't install AI on your machine, they'll use the remote shell software to pop a shell session, and ask AI they're running on one of their machines to look around in the shell for anything sensitive.

If an attacker has access to your unlocked computer, it is already game over, and LLM tools is quite far down the list of dangerous software they could install.

Maybe we should ban common RAT software first, like `ssh` and `TeamViewer`.

Re: Claude Sonnet will ship in Xcode

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Does anybody know why Anthropic doesn't let you remove your payment info from your account, or how to get support from them?

I bought a Pro subscription, the send button on their dumb chatbot box is disabled for me (on Safari), and I still get "capacity constraints' limits. Filed a chargeback with my bank just because of the audacity of their post-purchase experience. ChatGPT-5 works good enough for coding too.

From my experience with Claude Opus it seems like it tries to be "too smart" and doesn't seem to keep up with the latest APIs. It suggested some code for a iOS/macOS project that was only valid on tvOS, and other gaffs.

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