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Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by smohare »

colechristensen wrote: post #86
cheema33 wrote: post #34

This needs to be repeated. Tariffs are a tax on ordinary citizens. Unlike regular taxes, tariffs are not progressive and therefore benefit the wealthy. These are the sort of things the poor and middle class voted for. To make the rich, richer. And then turn around and complain that rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer.

I think it's quite the opposite. Tariffs are flat taxes on corporations AND can't be avoided with the tax shenanigans all big corporations use and many small ones can't. Implementation and motivation details aside I'm in favor of small tariffs for all but the most equal trade partners. Corporate taxes have the problem of small business paying much more proportionally than large ones and a flat tax on businesses that…

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Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by [deleted] »

lawlessone wrote: post #63
add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Has he "ended" it? Does he have the discipline, intelligence, and patience to do the work to end things legislatively or just make executive orders that will be tied up in courts for years and rescinded as soon he's out of office?

>and rescinded as soon he's out of office If

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Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by shafyy »

helloooooooo wrote: post #116
cheema33 wrote: post #34

This needs to be repeated. Tariffs are a tax on ordinary citizens. Unlike regular taxes, tariffs are not progressive and therefore benefit the wealthy. These are the sort of things the poor and middle class voted for. To make the rich, richer. And then turn around and complain that rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer.

I don’t think anyone here has yet come to the realization that ending rampant consumerism is the whole damn point of the tariffs.

No, that's surely not the point of tariffs. Maybe a silver lining, but for sure not the intention.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by rozab »

The font rendering on this site is crazy, I guess traditional Japanese fonts like MS PGothic always render bitmaps at smaller sizes. It's fine when zoomed in (or on HiDPI displays i guess). Is it just assumed that Japanese users have better fonts installed?

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by [deleted] »

helloooooooo wrote: post #116
cheema33 wrote: post #34

This needs to be repeated. Tariffs are a tax on ordinary citizens. Unlike regular taxes, tariffs are not progressive and therefore benefit the wealthy. These are the sort of things the poor and middle class voted for. To make the rich, richer. And then turn around and complain that rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer.

I don’t think anyone here has yet come to the realization that ending rampant consumerism is the whole damn point of the tariffs.

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Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by [deleted] »

colechristensen wrote: post #86
cheema33 wrote: post #34

This needs to be repeated. Tariffs are a tax on ordinary citizens. Unlike regular taxes, tariffs are not progressive and therefore benefit the wealthy. These are the sort of things the poor and middle class voted for. To make the rich, richer. And then turn around and complain that rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer.

I think it's quite the opposite. Tariffs are flat taxes on corporations AND can't be avoided with the tax shenanigans all big corporations use and many small ones can't. Implementation and motivation details aside I'm in favor of small tariffs for all but the most equal trade partners. Corporate taxes have the problem of small business paying much more proportionally than large ones and a flat tax on businesses that…

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Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by bryzaguy »

gosub100 wrote: post #96
cheema33 wrote: post #34

This needs to be repeated. Tariffs are a tax on ordinary citizens. Unlike regular taxes, tariffs are not progressive and therefore benefit the wealthy. These are the sort of things the poor and middle class voted for. To make the rich, richer. And then turn around and complain that rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer.

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One impact I’ve seen is small businesses who can no longer afford the tools/supplies they need, which aren’t manufactured in the states, so they are forced to increase their prices on good they sell or go out of business.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by zahlman »

zymhan wrote: post #84
hippo22 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think that cigarette taxes should be repealed then?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

This is not whataboutism. The argument described in GGP would apply the same way to GP's case. Cigarette taxes are a sales/consumption tax (specifically one aimed at discouraging consumption, but cigarettes are addictive) and they are necessarily, inherently regressive, for the simple reason that people with orders of magnitude more income and wealth cannot feasibly spend proportionately more on cigarettes.

Re: Temporary suspension of acceptance of mail to the United States

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Post by eagsalazar2 »

helloooooooo wrote: post #116
cheema33 wrote: post #34

This needs to be repeated. Tariffs are a tax on ordinary citizens. Unlike regular taxes, tariffs are not progressive and therefore benefit the wealthy. These are the sort of things the poor and middle class voted for. To make the rich, richer. And then turn around and complain that rich are getting richer and they are getting poorer.

I don’t think anyone here has yet come to the realization that ending rampant consumerism is the whole damn point of the tariffs.

Lol, are you serious? Can you elaborate on your thinking here? Are you suggesting Trump imposed tariffs out of some altruistic goal of reducing waste or the social impacts of consumerism?? That can't be right. What is the motivation in your mind?
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