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Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by immibis »

rasengan wrote: post #105
immibis wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the code doesn't have any code to clone private keys. The trust chain ends with you trusting Intel to only make CPUs that do what they say they do, so that if the code doesn't say to clone a private key, it won't. (You also have to trust the owners to not correlate your traffic from outside the enclave, which is the same as every VPN, so this adds nothing)

The first part is definitely true. The second part in terms of correlations is untrue since we include a number of techniques to frustrate timing attacks among other things.

There's also the factor of why should we trust the person who destroyed Freenode while telling everyone he was actually saving it from the evil people who were trying to steal it from him? That's a liability. He might sell all our traffic logs to some evil entity while claiming he's just protecting us.

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by lossolo »

duskwuff wrote: post #42
MagicalTux wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the server-side part of things. It receives encrypted traffic from your (and other customers) device, and routes it to the Internet. This guarantees that your traffic isn't being linked to you, and is mixed up with others in a way that makes it difficult for someone to attribute it to you, as long as you also protect yourself on the application side (clear cookies, no tracking browser extension, etc)

> This guarantees that your traffic isn't being linked to you, and is mixed up with others in a way that makes it difficult for someone to attribute it to you What would prevent you (or someone who has gained access to your infrastructure) from routing each connection to a unique instance of the server software and tracking what traffic goes in/out of each instance?

Nothing, it's not technically possible to prevent that with their system.

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

rkagerer wrote: post #10

Someone had a comment here that just disappeared, mentioning it's by Mark Karpelès (yes, the same guy from MtGox) and Andrew Lee. Why did that remark get deleted?

The people who were convicted of multi-million dollar fraud resulting in someone walking away with millions of dollars of others bitcoin deposits, IIRC (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s if you want to check details).

Also, I couldn't see where it is based? Anywhere in Five-Eyes countries, or places like USA with national security letters (or just their fascist government) is probably not going to fit most people's that models.

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by waon »

rasengan wrote: post #104
eptcyka wrote: post #73

The chief privacy officer of the company is the moron that destroyed Freenode. Of course, Libera lives on, but it is a transition we could’ve done without.

This has been debunked. Freenode was sold to me by Christel, the previous owner. I did not even offer to purchase it and simply assumed I was doing what I had been doing for a decade for freenode and many other FOSS projects - keeping them alive. It was my funds that did so the whole time for freenode (and a number of other projects which I stopped funding thereafter given the death threats I was receiving which led…

The whole community fled from Freenode as a direct consequence of your actions. You aren't convincing anyone with your "debunkings," dear masterdebater.

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

selkin wrote: post #43
b8 wrote: post #23

They claim to allow anonymous sign up and payments, but requires an email,an account, zip code and name for Crypto payments, but fake info could be used I guess. I tried ordering via Crypto, but it constantly gives me this error: "Unable to load order information. Try again". Honestly, I feel more comfortable using Mullvad. This team has some folks with questionable backgrounds and I wouldn't trust Intel. Also VPN pr…

Being outside the US doesn’t shield you from it. And worse, it is harder for the American government to eavesdrop on US soil than it is outside America. Of course, if a national spying apparatus is after you, regardless of the nation, pretty good chance jurisdiction doesn’t matter.

>it is harder for the American government to eavesdrop on US soil than it is outside America.

I don't have any particular insight here, but isn't that why Five Eyes is used, a workaround for what would otherwise be illegal activities. Not that the current USA regime care about the law, of course.

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by neurostimulant »

> With humility and love, Mark (“MagicalTux”) Karpelès, CTO VP.NET

Huh, I thought Mark Karpelès is working at Private Internet Access.

From the about page:

> currently head of karpeles labs, a multi faceted research and development firm specializing in highly complex technology systems

I guess he quit to run a competing vpn company?

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by squeaky-clean »

rasengan wrote: post #113
immibis wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This VPN requires you to trust in Intel - a failing US megacorp desperate for money - as well as the guy who destroyed Mt Gox and the guy who destroyed Freenode. Personally, I'd rather trust in Mullvad.

> guy who destroyed Mt Gox Let me correct that for you - the guy who brought you the first Bitcoin exchange and arguably helped pave the way for cryptocurrencies today. > guy who destroyed Freenode This was already debunked [1]. I tried to save freenode - I was the only one funding it up until the point where freenode's ownership "gave" it to me essentially which resulted in the non-developer staff to attempt to host…

> Let me correct that for you - the guy who brought you the first Bitcoin exchange

Oh wow, that exchange must be doing very well and be super successful and not have any controversies, right? It's still alive at least, right? /s. Acting like losing over 700,000 bitcoins is a sign of credibility is just wild.

This isn't the flex that you think it is. You guys really should have gone to prison.

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by akimbostrawman »

thrown-0825 wrote: post #85
akimbostrawman wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

cryptocurrency != bitcoin. monero has solved this issue for almost a decade.

they just got exploited a few days ago

they did not. the attack did not change anything about the privacy and anonymity. it isn't even an exploit, its simply using tens of million of dollar in mining costs to try doing a 51% attack and spread FUD which worked on you.

this isn't reddit. if you are trying to act like a know it all at least do basic research.

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by neurostimulant »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #123
rkagerer wrote: post #10

Someone had a comment here that just disappeared, mentioning it's by Mark Karpelès (yes, the same guy from MtGox) and Andrew Lee. Why did that remark get deleted?

The people who were convicted of multi-million dollar fraud resulting in someone walking away with millions of dollars of others bitcoin deposits, IIRC ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Karpel%C3%A8s if you want to check details). Also, I couldn't see where it is based? Anywhere in Five-Eyes countries, or places like USA with national security letters (or just their fascist government) is probably not going to f…

> why would we hide in shady jurisdictions… if we've got nothing to hide?

> we operate proudly in the united states. protected by the constitution — not offshore shell games.

> no backdoors. no stored data. even if they ask, we've got nothing.

> we don't dodge the law — we built tech that doesn't need to.

https://vp.net/l/en-US/about

Re: A privacy VPN you can verify

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Post by neurostimulant »

wyclif wrote: post #112
nneonneo wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep! It’s very easy: rent any cloud server, stick a WireGuard/OpenVPN/ShadowSocks container on it, download the config, and you’re done. Since you’re not interested in compute, you can probably use the tiniest cloud server available to save costs. I pay approximately 50¢/month for such a setup, and you can probably do it for free forever if you decide to be slightly abusive about it. However, be aware that you don’t…

I'm interested in doing this, and also running ZNC because I still use IRC and need to run a bouncer, &c.

It's super easy with wg-easy: https://github.com/wg-easy/wg-easy
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