I'm unsure why dead people would have rights. Is that concept really a good thing?
Because live people care a lot about that, so they create legal structures supporting it
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I dont think this is actually true? You can, namely, write a will. You can choose what is done with your possesions, presumably including destroying them. Iirc there's a rule called the law against perpetuities, where you have control over your estate via the will, maximally until some time after the death of a specific named person who was alive at the time of your death. (which I find a strange stipulation)
> where you have control over your estate via the will, maximally until some time after the death of a specific named person who was alive at the time of your death. (which I find a strange stipulation) This is a compromise of allowing some of your wishes to be fulfilled after your death while preventing long term 'dead hand' control over property and resources. You can set up a foundation dedicated to "thing" but ca…
I agree its good for it not to be infinite. I just find it strange that the length is based on gambling at the time of your will which person you can name will live longest. Why not a fixed amount of time?
I guess it's so you can provide stipulations to etc care for your newlyborn for their life or something, idk
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Denmark to tackle deepfakes by giving people copyright to their own features - https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jun/27/deepfakes... - June 27th, 2025 As you mention, if copyright law codifies the rights, it then becomes trivial to stick the property rights to self into a trust or other post death entity for the estate to administer and enforce. The nation state policy is the hard part.
I've seen a few mentions of that law online. It completely overturns existing copyright law and has the potential for all sorts of problems. ie If you take a photo and some random person is in the background what happens to the copyright of the picture?
Depends if you are a private citizen or a professional photographer, where you made the photo and how noticible they are in the frame.
In general in Europe laws only set a general intent or outline, and judges take circumstances into account
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I'm a 53 year old dad of a 4 year old son (the only kid I will ever have). Mortality looms. Who will advise him if something happens to me, other than a super intelligent AI who knows my values at a deep level and can imitate my responses?
I understand the motivation but I think there are dangers for your digital twin: https://qntm.org/mmacevedo
A reasonable facsimile of me would suffice IMHO. That link's clearly speculative science fiction based in unproven materialism ;)
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The way it mostly works is that if a company hires a Morgan Freeman impersonator to do the voice over for their car commercial, Morgan Freeman can sue them for using his likeness without permission: https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/F2/849... > We need not and do not go so far as to hold that every imitation of a voice to advertise merchandise is actionable. We hold only that when a distinctive vo…
So essentially only the rich and famous have any meaningful protection under the law. Have to love the legal system sometimes. Also sucks if you sound like Morgan Freeman. Put out of an entire line of work because someone was famous for sounding like you first.
The goal I think is to protect people with valuable likenesses being undercut by cheap knockoffs, not to protect everyone's likeness. So it's more like a trademark than anything.
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I understand the motivation but I think there are dangers for your digital twin: https://qntm.org/mmacevedo
A reasonable facsimile of me would suffice IMHO. That link's clearly speculative science fiction based in unproven materialism ;)
Fair enough. As a father of a 20-something year old my experience tells me your belief that your child will listen to your advice or be influenced by your deep-held values is also pretty fanciful ;) But you are in the golden years with your son and I envy you that, good luck!
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Every day, I'm haunted by my ex. It's not Alice's fault, of course. In fact, when she found out about it, phrases like "obsessive creep" and "got what he fucking deserved" were thrown around. It was a raw breakup on both sides, and I think we're feeling it out in different ways. In my defense, she broke up with me. I feel that counts for something, ya know? It was poor timing for me that the breakup happened a month…
That is excellent, creepy, and just a little too plausible. I'd read whatever larger work this turns into.
There are a lot of creepy stories nowadays, where I ask myself, was that actually fiction?