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Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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It's a very interesting project, but I don't think I'm ready to let go of all my Android apps.

On those rare occasions that I need to launch an Android app (such as my banking app), I run it in Waydroid.

That won't work with apps that require Play Store Integrity, right?

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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Respectfully, nothing about that applies to a laptop. This has been well proven over the years, that with good forethought and making parts available laptops can be highly repairable.

The display unit is nothing an enduser should replace. Does every user know how to handle the delicate display and how to carefully install the LVDS cable? In most modern cars you cant replace the windscreen with cameras, heating wires in your backyard without the calibration software. You can try it, but you will fail.

So what you are saying, is that it is all designed to be impossible to fix without special equipment and exquisite motor skills?

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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"230VAC is dangerous, therefore it makes sense you cannot purchase a 12VDC laptop screen to install yourself"

Ever heard of the old displays with an inverter that produced around 700V? Can zap grandpa into the coffin... THats why they did not sell it to customers.

Everybody obviously works on a powered on laptop, with fully charged capacitors. With those capacitor delivering at leat 100mA to your heart for good measure.

It's like when people work on their car, they do it at highway speed, using a nacelle precariously balanced under the car, with the front wheels propped up on dollies for access.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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"230VAC is dangerous, therefore it makes sense you cannot purchase a 12VDC laptop screen to install yourself"

Ever heard of the old displays with an inverter that produced around 700V? Can zap grandpa into the coffin... THats why they did not sell it to customers.

And I'm sure that continuing that tradition into the laptop LCD era is similarly due to safety and not profit.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

#125

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The first link does not mention blacklisting, just resolving a license compatibility issue.

"The patches check for the gxtp7380, ite_8291, ite_8291_lb, ite_8297, ite_829x, stk8321, tuxedo_compatibility_check, tuxedo_io, tuxedo_nb02_nvidia_power_ctrl, tuxedo_nb04_keyboard, tuxedo_nb04_wmi_ab, tuxedo_nb04_wmi_bs, tuxedo_nb04_sensors, tuxedo_nb04_power_profiles, tuxedo_nb04_kbd_backlight, tuxedo_nb05_keyboard, tuxedo_nb05_kbd_backlight, tuxedo_nb05_power_profiles, tuxedo_nb05_ec, tuxedo_nb05_sensors, tuxedo_nb…

I would describe it as exactly "resolving a license compatibility issue". Taint in linux kernel refers to marking this kernel as not supported, which often just means not purely GPLv2 compatible anymore. Proprietary AMD and nVidia drivers also cause taints. https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/118117/251582

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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> NixOS is a superpower to me Can you expand on this? Just curious what is the main value-add you are getting from NixOS in particular?

- Fully declarative. I can bring up a system in 5-10 minutes (depending on internet speed) and the system configuration is exactly as any other system. - Great modules for programs/services in NixOS and home manager. So I typically do not have to figure out what configuration format something uses. Most common options are exposed as module options and for options that are not exposed, it's often possible to write the…

I don't think anybody ever sold nixos that good to me before.

I might try it again. Last time I really did not like that any minute config change would take 15s to apply.

But the biggest issue for me, is that right now I have a good enough solution, that allows for config file update from applications. I have a small git repo, with one shell script, that symlinks config files, and even generates a few. And so backing up the latest config changes from KDE, freecad, etc, is a git add & commit away. I have another shell script to setup the base Ubuntu the way I want. And my data is replicated via syncthing.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

#127
I'm still waiting for the apple laptop killer (a 12h+ laptop with plain Ubuntu) but it's still brittle as fuck. I'm so frustrated by the current state of the mobile computing space. I have to have an Apple locked down device, which I hate, just because I want proper battery life.

A aarch64 Ubuntu vm inside MacOS runs faster and lasts more time than a booted up Ubuntu on arm in these devices. This is how far behind these things are.

and what bums me the most is that it's all about software. The hardware is great, but software on Snapdragon is taking a lot of time to catch up and it screams M$ lobby to me

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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post #127

I'm still waiting for the apple laptop killer (a 12h+ laptop with plain Ubuntu) but it's still brittle as fuck. I'm so frustrated by the current state of the mobile computing space. I have to have an Apple locked down device, which I hate, just because I want proper battery life. A aarch64 Ubuntu vm inside MacOS runs faster and lasts more time than a booted up Ubuntu on arm in these devices. This is how far behind th…

Pretty sure there are plenty of traditional x86 Linux laptops that have north of 12h battery life. System76 comes to mind (mandatory "System76 is just a Clevo wrapper" comment).

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

#129
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Any word on a compibily layer project for x86/64 like Rosetta? Seems like an important thing to have imo. The article mentions an emulator, but it seemed to be for running games. I also heard MS had something similar in their arm dev kit, but haven't looked much into it.

There's lots of responses but they miss the point. Rosetta let you run x86/64 apps without even knowing they were x86/64. Back when I ran Asahi, I searched far and wide, but Linux doesn't support that level of transparent integration. You always had to fuddle with the launch params.

Re: Linux on Snapdragon X Elite: Linaro and Tuxedo Pave the Way for ARM64 Laptops

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I'm waiting for this. I like low powered laptops as more of a terminal. I dont want the apple ecosystem, but I'm getting really tired of windows, high end chromebooks kinda disappeared, I have Linux servers at home. Do I have to wait much longer?

An alternative that is available right now is to get an M1/M2 MacBook Air and run Asahi Linux on it. The older models are pretty cheap, but still quite fast. There are some missing features, but it runs really well. I've been using it as my home driver for over a year and it's really solid.
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