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Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by relchar »

giantg2 wrote: post #81
Thrymr wrote: post #54

> Many of America’s most critical sectors, such as healthcare, are especially slow to adopt due to a variety of factors, including distrust or lack of understanding of the technology, a complex regulatory landscape, and a lack of clear governance and risk mitigation standards. A coordinated Federal effort would be beneficial in establishing a dynamic, “try-first” culture for AI across American industry. I'm sure "mov…

AI for treatment is rightfully scrutinized. AI for billing or other administrative tasks could be a big cost saver since administrative costs are a huge expense and a major factor of high consumer costs.

fan of this balanced take

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Post by atleastoptimal »

sorcerer-mar wrote: post #117
atleastoptimal wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Healthcare in the US is already in very poor shape. Thousands die because of waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs which in turn leads to denied claims because insurers won't cover it. AI is already better at diagnosis than physicians in most cases.

I will bet $1,000 you don’t work in a clinic and you’re instead spouting press releases as fact here?

So you claim that nobody in the US has died due to waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs which in turn leads to denied claims?

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Post by toofy »

Thrymr wrote: post #54

> Many of America’s most critical sectors, such as healthcare, are especially slow to adopt due to a variety of factors, including distrust or lack of understanding of the technology, a complex regulatory landscape, and a lack of clear governance and risk mitigation standards. A coordinated Federal effort would be beneficial in establishing a dynamic, “try-first” culture for AI across American industry. I'm sure "mov…

i’m getting super fatigued on this change we’ve had where what used to be beta testing to a closed group of invested parties has morphed into what we have now.

from video games to major product roll outs to cars.

will all of the knowledge gained from this product research testing of AI on medicine be given away to the public in the same way university research used to be to the scientific community? or will this beta test on the public’s health be kept as company’s “trade secret”

if they’re going to “move fast and break things” with the public, in other words beta research on the public, then it’s incredibly worrisome if the research is hidden and “gifted” to a handful of their cronies.

particularly so when quite a lot of these people in the AI sphere have vocally many times declared they despise the government and that the government helping people is awful. from one side of their mouth chastise government spending money to boost regular communities of people while simultaneously using it to help themselves.

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Post by toofy »

atleastoptimal wrote: post #122
sorcerer-mar wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I will bet $1,000 you don’t work in a clinic and you’re instead spouting press releases as fact here?

So you claim that nobody in the US has died due to waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs which in turn leads to denied claims?

> So you claim that nobody in the US has died due to waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs

i don’t thing they made those claims, at all…

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Post by myhf »

giantg2 wrote: post #82
TZubiri wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to our pitch for DenyBot.ai Our product automates a lot of the repetitive tasks for health insurance companies and increases reliability of responses and profit margins.

Aren't profit margins restricted by law? Ostensibly, any reduction in expenses should result in some reduction to patients.

This new AI reduces payouts by $10MM. The licensing fee is $10MM. Profit margins stay within the legal limits.

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Post by mac-mc »

giantg2 wrote: post #81
Thrymr wrote: post #54

> Many of America’s most critical sectors, such as healthcare, are especially slow to adopt due to a variety of factors, including distrust or lack of understanding of the technology, a complex regulatory landscape, and a lack of clear governance and risk mitigation standards. A coordinated Federal effort would be beneficial in establishing a dynamic, “try-first” culture for AI across American industry. I'm sure "mov…

AI for treatment is rightfully scrutinized. AI for billing or other administrative tasks could be a big cost saver since administrative costs are a huge expense and a major factor of high consumer costs.

Billing and administration feels like a made up self own tho. A lot of that crap could just... not be done, as shown with the huge expansion of administration : medical dollar ratio in the past 50 years.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by mac-mc »

giantg2 wrote: post #82
TZubiri wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to our pitch for DenyBot.ai Our product automates a lot of the repetitive tasks for health insurance companies and increases reliability of responses and profit margins.

Aren't profit margins restricted by law? Ostensibly, any reduction in expenses should result in some reduction to patients.

You increase profits by expanding the amount of money put through the system, leading to a perverse incentive of ever increasing costs.

Re: US AI Action Plan

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Post by bobmcnamara »

atleastoptimal wrote: post #114
Thrymr wrote: post #54

> Many of America’s most critical sectors, such as healthcare, are especially slow to adopt due to a variety of factors, including distrust or lack of understanding of the technology, a complex regulatory landscape, and a lack of clear governance and risk mitigation standards. A coordinated Federal effort would be beneficial in establishing a dynamic, “try-first” culture for AI across American industry. I'm sure "mov…

Healthcare in the US is already in very poor shape. Thousands die because of waiting for care, misdiagnosis, or inefficiency leading to magnified costs which in turn leads to denied claims because insurers won't cover it. AI is already better at diagnosis than physicians in most cases.

How does AI evaluate signs today?
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