FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices • Hacker News Board

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by AngryData » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 6:58 AM UTC

smt88 wrote: post #72

wnevets wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If an adversarial nation had control of the white house would anyone be able to tell the difference

I think an adversarial nation would reduce military activity far more than the current regime has. That might be the only difference, though.

I don't think so if they are a nuclear armed nation. If the end result of a nuclear armed conflict is mutual destruction and collapse, the only path towards dominance is economic. And in a pure economic fight a massive overpowered military is just an economic anchor.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by intermerda » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:04 AM UTC

izacus wrote: post #118

bubblethink wrote: post #109

To be the devil's advocate, the previous admin also squandered a lot of broadband money away in a pattern that seems common to all Democratic infra projects. See https://reason.com/2024/06/27/why-has-joe-bidens-42-billion-... . Neither party is good at this. The FCC broadband map and the b/w labels (previous admin) are nice though.

Why do you feel the need to be the devils advocate? What do you get from defending this crap?

> I think “logic lord” types are sometimes drawn to contrarian positions because they like the strong emotional reactions that stating those positions induces in other people. It gives them a smug sense that they are dispassionate and logical and everyone else is blinded by emotion.

I had saved it from some other social media type. It accurately describes a lot of HN community.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by dsab » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:08 AM UTC

In Poland I have 1000/300 fiber in my family house village with ~500 people population and same 1000/300 fiber in city I currently live both for 30 USD / month.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by Hobadee » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:08 AM UTC

We don't need the FCC to push fast broadband, we need to break up the stranglehold duopoly that phone and cable companies have on cities. If Google can't stomach dealing with them to create more competition, what chance does anyone else have?

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by tzs » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:13 AM UTC

bubblethink wrote: post #109

To be the devil's advocate, the previous admin also squandered a lot of broadband money away in a pattern that seems common to all Democratic infra projects. See https://reason.com/2024/06/27/why-has-joe-bidens-42-billion-... . Neither party is good at this. The FCC broadband map and the b/w labels (previous admin) are nice though.

Saying they squandered the money makes it sound like they spent it and got no results. In fact it has not been spent. They were just slow to work out the details for how states could apply and in processing those applications. They got through that and several states had their applications approved and were just waiting for the money to actually start building.

The new administration stopped that and rescinded all the approvals, made various changes to the program (which will result in many areas that would have gotten high speed broadband that would be sufficient for decades getting slower broadband that will be obsolete much sooner), and now everyone has to reapply again.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by cenamus » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:14 AM UTC

dsab wrote: post #123

In Poland I have 1000/300 fiber in my family house village with ~500 people population and same 1000/300 fiber in city I currently live both for 30 USD / month.

It just seems like the later a country got on the internet, the better their infrastructure is, Poland, Bulgaria, etc. all have way better internet than Austria or Germany

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by burnt-resistor » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:17 AM UTC

dsab wrote: post #123

In Poland I have 1000/300 fiber in my family house village with ~500 people population and same 1000/300 fiber in city I currently live both for 30 USD / month.

Data caps? Does it really offer that speed at peak times though? Are oversubscription of backhaul infrastructure disclosed?

In semi-rural hill country TX, 2.5 Gbps symmetric from an internet co-op is $90 USD/month without data caps.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by actionfromafar » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:20 AM UTC

reactordev wrote: post #85

Mistletoe wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you reduce all those other things you don’t need to reduce their military. You already won, without a battle or any casualties on your side. The decay and rot from the inside will take care of the rest.

In which case turn the military on the people and expedite the process. /s

It will come, eventually. That usually doesn't need any outside tinkering, it follows naturally in dictatorships.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by SV_BubbleTime » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:20 AM UTC

gigatexal wrote: post #106

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #2

Seems they really want to revert everything that made the US a world leader. - Reduce science - Reduce collected data - Reduce immigration - Reduce infrastructure - Reduce adoption of EVs

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There is a LOT of data on Trump/Russia out now. I find it hard to believe anyone informed is still using that. It’s kind of an intellectual red flag my man.

The smarter liberals have moved on to just hating Trump for being himself.

Do the true believers here think that the I formation Gabbard is releasing is fake? We’ve had it for 9 years now about Ohrs and FusionGPS and FBI lying to FISA.

Re: FCC to eliminate gigabit speed goal and scrap analysis of broadband prices

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Post by anon7000 » Tue, Jul 22, 2025, 7:21 AM UTC

cenamus wrote: post #126

dsab wrote: post #123

In Poland I have 1000/300 fiber in my family house village with ~500 people population and same 1000/300 fiber in city I currently live both for 30 USD / month.

It just seems like the later a country got on the internet, the better their infrastructure is, Poland, Bulgaria, etc. all have way better internet than Austria or Germany

Seems like if they built it out after fiber was cheaper and more common, they have it good. Meanwhile, to this day, my parents get, at best, 6mbps down from the ancient, shitty copper infra the telco put up ages ago. Thankfully, other options like various 5G home internet products are a common in rural towns now, at least in the Midwest. But wouldn’t beat fiber!