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Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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From what I can tell, only one country in the world has free speech. Actual free speech. USA.

Its dying fast. The Late Show was just cancelled because it was a massive thorn to the POTUS.

I love a good “POTUS” conspiracy as much as the next guy but The Late Show cancelation is a simple money game, the show was bleeeding money. If the show was profitable the chance of it being cancelled are same as me dating Beyonce

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And you could indeed use Bitcoin on Steam for a while! But then the blocks got full, fees and wait times skyrocketed, and in response to the customer backlash Steam removed Bitcoin. Meanwhile Bitcoiners were (and still are) only focused on number go up instead of other, more productive, use cases. Such a waste.

There's now Ethereum, Base and Solana featuring US dollar stablecoins and significantly cheaper fees. If you want to go a step further and eliminate the stablecoin issuer's counterparty risk you could even pay in the base asset of ETH. Shopify allows payments from crypto now, so Steam should try it again. Good luck censoring purchases on ETH.

Even stablecoins aren't so great for the environment. Proof of stake isn't as bad, but also doesn't offer much beyond traditional systems once KYC is needed.

Am I missing something?

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From what I can tell, only one country in the world has free speech. Actual free speech. USA.

I don't know what your definition of "actual" free speech is but there are certainly limits to free speech even in the US[0]. And those are just explicit limits. Try supporting Palestine on a college campus or mentioning women or gay people in any government funded scientific publication, or finding a book portraying pro-LGBT content in a library or a school curriculum that portrays slavery in a way that "makes white…

Supporting Palestine would get you deported to El Salvador (or worse) :)

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Okay so is Steam enough of a money printer for Valve to say "well fuck you guys, we'll make our own credit card with hookers and bingo"? And hold out Half-Life 3 (only purchasable with the ValveCard) as a carrot?

I am genuinely curious who can actually threaten Visa (I do not think it is Valve).

Amazon, Walmart, Target and then increasingly unsure.

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Link for the petition and its signers. https://www.collectiveshout.org/open-letter-to-payment-proce... https://www.heise.de/en/news/Steam-Payment-providers-force-V...

Reverse petition where?

All eyes on you.

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Okay so is Steam enough of a money printer for Valve to say "well fuck you guys, we'll make our own credit card with hookers and bingo"? And hold out Half-Life 3 (only purchasable with the ValveCard) as a carrot?

I mean a bank is literally a money printer.

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Its dying fast. The Late Show was just cancelled because it was a massive thorn to the POTUS.

I love a good “POTUS” conspiracy as much as the next guy but The Late Show cancelation is a simple money game, the show was bleeeding money. If the show was profitable the chance of it being cancelled are same as me dating Beyonce

Technically yes, but the money game was CBS losing a massive lawsuit to POTUS.

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Unfortunately, cash is slowly getting phased out. Try buying a second hand car and you want cash from the bank. Used to be very easy, but now you need to declare what your spending your money on. You sold your car. O, its over 7 or 10k, well, this is getting reported to the local IRS. Where is that cash coming from, questions, questions? Over here they are even cracking down on stuff like ebay, amazon because some pe…

>You sold your car. O, its over 7 or 10k, well, this is getting reported to the local IRS. Where is that cash coming from, questions, questions? (I'm not in the US) I'm curious about how does that happen. Do they reach out to you? Your bank?

In the US, it’s a “Currency Transaction Report”: https://www.fdic.gov/news/financial-institution-letters/2021...

The bank collects the information necessary to submit that form at the time of transaction.

You’re also required as an individual to file IRS Form 8300 if you accept >$10k in payment: https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employe...

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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Okay so is Steam enough of a money printer for Valve to say "well fuck you guys, we'll make our own credit card with hookers and bingo"? And hold out Half-Life 3 (only purchasable with the ValveCard) as a carrot?

That's basically what gift cards are isn't it?

> Leaked internal slides peg Steam’s net revenue last fiscal year at just under $10 billion

https://www.simplymac.com/games/3-5m-per-employee-how-valve-...

Re: Valve confirms credit card companies pressured it to delist certain adult games

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It's interesting that Valve sort of put themselves in this situation by opting not to police their store anymore. I'm personally a fan of fewer restrictions on content in video games and fewer "gatekeepers" but it's kind of inevitable that people would get upset when you chose to allow people to sell games like "Sex With Hitler" and "Pimp Life: Sex Simulator". Deciding to allow that content on your store and simultan…

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