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What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by ProllyInfamous »

margalabargala wrote: post #116
flkenosad wrote: post #97

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You killed someone with your bare hands but it wasn't your choice? Sorry I'm lost.

Sometimes, other people can decide to put you in a situation where among all possible actions, physically stopping that person by any means is the least bad option by several orders of magnitude. People refer to this as having "no choice", assuming most people understand "standing there and watching them repeatedly stab my infant with a fork" is not a choice anyone would make. It's an idiom.

>It's an idiom

Thank you.

Thank you for using your brain.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by strogonoff »

theteapot wrote: post #99
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #57

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I had long-term noise issues with the tenant directly above me. Periodically complaining to the office got sympathy but little else. Then I created a iOs shortcut that sent a templated email to my landlord each time I told Siri "Loud neighbors." I was surprised at the effectiveness of 3 - 4 emails a week. I suspect it is one thing to shoosh someone while ushering them out of your office. It's another to have to respo…

Noise pollution is yet another tax disproportionately shouldered by the poor.

It makes intuitive sense and maybe is true in many places (I’m not in the US, for example), but some of the quietest flats I happened to have seen were in subsidized government housing or cost almost half of my rent. I simply did not luck out with one of those.

If you are in top N% then yes, you probably just do not have to worry about noise. However, at this point we are just arguing about the definition of “the poor”. If you mean anyone who lacks cash to forfeit the tenancy agreement like it was nothing, then yes.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by antod »

flkenosad wrote: post #98
doitformango wrote: post #92

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If a shark attacks you, it isn't personal, but it is traumatic. Also, sharks weren't made by ethically-questionable hackers. I don't see why you need to dismiss this person's legitimate trauma, seems awfully boorish of you to do so.

> Also, sharks weren't made by ethically-questionable hackers. You don't know that.

Those are the ones have frickin lasers on their heads.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by NilMostChill »

efilife wrote: post #119
NilMostChill wrote: post #60

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It being common doesn't mean it's OK, it also doesn't mean people aren't allowed to be upset by it. Casual racism and bigotry are common, "You probably need to calm down a bit" is dismissive and condescending.

"Casual racism and bigotry are common" Where?

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Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by subscribed »

beeflet wrote: post #113
Drunkfoowl wrote: post #72

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The last part is so true. I’m a big guy, 6’3’’ 260, multiple Ironman, sport, climbing, lifting and hunting brush with a bit of combat training over the years. Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works. Yet people apply it to anything they want recklessly. Cars, phones, or like above peoples projects. I wonder how they would feel if I…

>Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works. You don't, not because you are such a great guy, but because society's protection of physical systems is rigorous through thousands (millions?) of years of evolution. If you assault someone in the modern day, you will probably get thrown in jail or you will get shot. Our information systems…

Are you saying that the guy would go for a killing spree because he can, but he's only stopped by the laws?

Weird.

And polar opposite from what he said.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by luckylion »

NilMostChill wrote: post #117
luckylion wrote: post #102

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It being common doesn't make it OK, but it does make it not a personal attack. Exploit scanners are common, they are not someone attacking you personally. I'd be surprised if the mass download and the exploit scanner were even related. Much more likely they weren't and somebody just messed up some bot they were building and fetched everything in a loop. It's annoying, yes, but it's not personal. Nobody is attacking h…

None of what i said had anything to do with the nature of the attack, personal or otherwise. The author seems to be taking it a bit personally but they don't seem to be implying an attack targeted to them exclusively as much as an attack that they experienced personally but it could be either i suppose. The blog post was, "this is a thing that happened, followed by another thing i think was related, i am upset, here…

> A couple of days ago, someone (or some entity) tried to attack this website. They sent hundreds of thousands of requests, attempting to inject code into the site. [...] But then they changed strategy. They began downloading every single sound file, again and again.

The author definitely saw it as a targeted attack that, when it failed, caused the attacker to switch tactics to intentionally cause harm.

And it's not "this is common, suck it up", it's "this is common, it's not about you personally, nobody is out to get YOU". It's like when you first receive spam mails and didn't know what that was. It's easy to think it's just someone messing with you, trying to annoy you. But it's really not, it's lots of people sending out millions of messages, and some of those finding their way into your mailbox.

It helps classify what happens. It's a very different situation when your car has been keyed and you know that it happened to every car on your street (super likely to be random vandalism) vs that is happened to only your car (much more likely that somebody is out to get you). Your behavior changes in response to whether something is random vs intentional.

That's why it's important to help people understand when things aren't intentional (as in "they targeted _that_ website specifically" vs "they target all the sites, and today their scanner arrived at domains starting with myno"; of course they still intentionally ran that script).

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by beeflet »

subscribed wrote: post #126
beeflet wrote: post #113

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>Most people in my life I imagine I could kill with my bare hands. But I don’t, because like you said that isn’t how life works. You don't, not because you are such a great guy, but because society's protection of physical systems is rigorous through thousands (millions?) of years of evolution. If you assault someone in the modern day, you will probably get thrown in jail or you will get shot. Our information systems…

Are you saying that the guy would go for a killing spree because he can, but he's only stopped by the laws? Weird. And polar opposite from what he said.

If there were no laws, then there would be no evolutionary pressure to pacify the ghenghis khans of the world. And it's not so much the rules on paper, but the organization of power that enforces the rules.

It's not weird it's just uncomfortable for you to grapple with directly, that discomfort being a product of the same evolutionary pressure.

What I'm saying doesn't oppose what they're saying. That poster was just boasting about his ability to kill others, re-framed in a way to suit slave morality and make himself look like a "good" person.

Re: What a Hacker Stole from Me

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Post by strogonoff »

davidee wrote: post #86
Hnrobert42 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had long-term noise issues with the tenant directly above me. Periodically complaining to the office got sympathy but little else. Then I created a iOs shortcut that sent a templated email to my landlord each time I told Siri "Loud neighbors." I was surprised at the effectiveness of 3 - 4 emails a week. I suspect it is one thing to shoosh someone while ushering them out of your office. It's another to have to respo…

I don't know if this is right time to share, but as someone who also had many noisy neighbours over the years, this made me laugh (if you haven't seen it): https://youtu.be/4IRB0sxw-YU I also wish you all peace and quiet.

This is so good, thank you for the link. (My noise issue has no longer been human neighbour induced for the last two years, so I can now laugh about it.)
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