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Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by isaacremuant »

Tade0 wrote: post #101
EA-3167 wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2023, when tourism rates had yet to fully recover from Covid, over 66 million people visited the US from abroad. I don't have more recent statistics, but I'm going to assume that the number is the same or higher this year. Out of that population which could fill a decent-sized country, how many people have been treated so unfairly as the one in this article? How do those stats compare with other countries, and the…

This is unheard of anywhere in the developed world. Security at airports simply doesn't have this sort of power outside the US.

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Post by lenerdenator »

Disposal8433 wrote: post #29

Going to the USA as a tourist might be the most stupid action that one can make at this time. Unless you have a dying mother or father, there is absolutely no reason to visit this country. It reminds me of the tourists that used to go to North Korea for fun some years ago, it never was a good idea.

> Going to the USA as a tourist might be the most stupid action that one can make at this time.

I can think of several things that are more stupid, and for better or worse, border guards are dicks in a lot of countries.

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Post by throwawayq3423 »

mellosouls wrote: post #75
recursivedoubts wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think political correctness is bad and that this is bad (and that the meme is very funny) too

As did JD Vance who retweeted them himself.

While he oversees a government that enforces punitive actions on speech. Guess which action is more important?

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by FeteCommuniste »

qoez wrote: post #56

His name was "Mads Mikkelsen", like the actor? Either he gave a fake name or this story is made up.

That's like saying a news story about an American was fake because his name was "Michael Jordan" or "David Robinson." Some names are really common.

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by arlort »

keerthiko wrote: post #85

from the article: > "They threatened me with a minimum fine of $5,000 or five years in prison if I refused to provide the password to my phone." this isn't real/legal/enforceable (as the law currently stands) is it? how does one protect ourselves against this turn of events upon entry when the immigration officer's claim fails the smell test?

By not travelling to the US if you're not willing to do it

Don't see how it wouldn't be legal as long as the target of the request isn't a citizen

Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by hermanzegerman »

jasonwatkinspdx wrote: post #91
paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

Based on decades of experience with my family: it's only political correctness when other people do it. When they do it, it's just common decency, common sense, family values, etc. And as far as the original story, individual border agents should absolutely not be doing this to people because they have a meme on their phone, doubly so one where Vance shared a version of it himself. There is straight up no justificati…

What values does the US represent?

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Post by gruez »

supertrope wrote: post #2

A teacher in school told me about the time they visited East Germany. Armed guards poked though his luggage. It's a slippery slope toward fascism.

>Armed guards poked though his luggage. It's a slippery slope toward fascism.

Is it? Lack of rights at the border isn't "fascism", it's the norm. I don't think any country gives you 4th amendment (or similar) rights at the border, even liberal democracies.

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Post by [deleted] »

tsimionescu wrote: post #17
dyauspitr wrote: post #12

Should I start putting my phone in checked baggage? Is that allowed with the batteries and stuff? I guess I can carry a cheap older smartphone with a burner number for the actual flight.

That wouldn't matter, you get your checked luggage before border control, don't you?

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Re: Man 'refused entry into US' as border control catch him with bald JD Vance meme

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Post by jajuuka »

EA-3167 wrote: post #57
Disposal8433 wrote: post #29

Going to the USA as a tourist might be the most stupid action that one can make at this time. Unless you have a dying mother or father, there is absolutely no reason to visit this country. It reminds me of the tourists that used to go to North Korea for fun some years ago, it never was a good idea.

In 2023, when tourism rates had yet to fully recover from Covid, over 66 million people visited the US from abroad. I don't have more recent statistics, but I'm going to assume that the number is the same or higher this year. Out of that population which could fill a decent-sized country, how many people have been treated so unfairly as the one in this article? How do those stats compare with other countries, and the…

https://theconversation.com/tourism-to-the-us-is-tanking-fli...

Nope, tourism is tanking. There are numerous stories about tourists being detained for little to no reason and eventually deported.

Travel warnings from various international orgs like Amnesty International and other governments have been mounting since 2019. It also doesn't help when the president attacks the country that makes up a large portion of tourist like Canada.

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Post by noobermin »

paxys wrote: post #8

Wonder what the "political correctness is bad" "nobody is allowed to crack jokes anymore" "cancel culture is out of control" crowd will say about this one...

This meme "what about cancel culture" is no longer an interesting point anymore. Certainly online, most of Trump's fans don't care. Just stop taking these kind of conservatives you don't know personally seriously and just assume bad faith by default.
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