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Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by CoastalCoder »

jeroenhd wrote: post #72
malcolmgreaves wrote: post #53

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50% of people do not support this. That’s a made up number. Trump has barely over 40%. He is an unpopular criminal who has shown time and again he will break the law. What even makes you think a criminal like this would win an election fairly?

Trump won the majority vote in an election that brought out a huge amount of voters compared to previous elections, and Republicans won every other government body. He's not unpopular and many people do support him, unfortunately. Best case scenario, the silent majority didn't bother to prevent Trump and his lackeys from taking over the American government. I don't think denying Trump's popularity is going to solve a…

I think what's missing from the 40% number is that it says nothing about how passionately the other 60% feels.

I'm not concerned about the fact that the election was close.

I'm concerned that, post election, the country is so deeply polarized. For the first time in my life, I fear there's a small but real chance that we're headed for civil war.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by adgjlsfhk1 »

guiriduro wrote: post #100
spwa4 wrote: post #73

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Great, but look at this. This is a joke. Let's see ... the EU funded Microsoft to the tune of 234.26 billion USD per year, and have been funding it for 50 years (starting at 0 of course). How much software does the EU expect to get for "between 5000 and 50000 euro"? (one-time). A software engineer in Bangalore can expect to make more than that, even after tax! The EU got INCREDIBLY lucky after Microsoft's rise. Linux…

It doesn't need to throw out the baby with the (US-controlled) bathwater. The EU should present Microsoft with an ultimatum similar to what China might: setup a non-controlled european licensee to own and manage all MS & Azure infrastructure in the region, or have some legislators force a similar structure on them. Complete control, full sourcecode, EU-only support/access - as a condition for corp HQ being allowed to…

the problem the EU has is that such an ultimatum lacks teeth. China gets to make these demands because they've down willingness to fund and build homegrown alternatives and then blacklist the foreign competitor. If the EU wants the leverage to make these sorts of demands, they need to start by giving out a couple million here and there for the competitors they want to see.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by vidarh »

ptero wrote: post #119
Tostino wrote: post #104

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If the US is in the wrong, why should I as a citizen not want our government officials held accountable?

"In the wrong" is often jurisdiction specific. I do not want otherwise reasonable candidates to avoid the ballot because of the risk of being convicted by some external court.

If they're planning to do something that might get them indicted for crimes against humanity, then they are not reasonable candidates.

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Post by subscribed »

Atlas667 wrote: post #109
Aliabid94 wrote: post #84

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The US continues to burn its soft power capital to defend Israel - this guy was only targeted because of his investigations on Israeli war crimes.

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You don't call conspiracy something with receipts openly laying around.

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by dybber »

bigtones wrote: post #7

>> Casper Klynge, a former Danish and European Union diplomat who worked for Microsoft, said the episode was in many ways the “smoking gun that many Europeans had been looking for.” Damn right. Strong evidence that Europe should look after their own, and not rely on the good old US of A. Written by an Australian who thinks we should do the same down here.

Danish digitization ministry will soon attempt a move away from Microsoft because of this. We can only hope that this is only the first step, and that broader move away from US tech companies will follow.

https://www.theregister.com/2025/06/13/danish_department_dum...

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Post by soulofmischief »

SllX wrote: post #107
jeremyjh wrote: post #98

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That sounds...appropriate? I would have no issues with every living former US President being accountable for their crimes, and I expect they would all be convicted.

It’s not appropriate for an international court that we’re not even a part of to put our Presidents and their subordinates on trial, nor is it something we should meekly concede to.

We decided to not be a part of it. Meanwhile, we systematically bully other nations and kill high ranking officials with impunity. We can't have our cake and eat it too.

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Post by JimBlackwood »

revnode wrote: post #96
Aliabid94 wrote: post #84

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The US continues to burn its soft power capital to defend Israel - this guy was only targeted because of his investigations on Israeli war crimes.

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How is it a threat to American sovereignty? It has no jurisdiction in America, only within nations that are party to the treaty - which is their sovereign right?

Is a foreign nation convicting an American tourist for crimes in said nation also a threat to American sovereignty?

Re: Microsoft suspended the email account of an ICC prosecutor at The Hague

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Post by CamperBob2 »

SllX wrote: post #107
jeremyjh wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That sounds...appropriate? I would have no issues with every living former US President being accountable for their crimes, and I expect they would all be convicted.

It’s not appropriate for an international court that we’re not even a part of to put our Presidents and their subordinates on trial, nor is it something we should meekly concede to.

You know who else said that?

If we don't want to keep our own house clean -- and the re-election of Trump makes it crystal-clear that we don't -- is it such a surprise that other people will?

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Post by snickerbockers »

How on earth does the ICC plan to arrest Netanyahu or Putin? Even if one of them does make the mistake of setting foot in a compliant country, do they really think arresting a foreign head of state wouldn't be seen as an act of war?

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Post by mikewarot »

bigtones wrote: post #7

>> Casper Klynge, a former Danish and European Union diplomat who worked for Microsoft, said the episode was in many ways the “smoking gun that many Europeans had been looking for.” Damn right. Strong evidence that Europe should look after their own, and not rely on the good old US of A. Written by an Australian who thinks we should do the same down here.

I see it as strong evidence we should all run our own servers. Internet Access instead of internet connectivity needs to end.

It is possible using IPv6 to make end to end connections without having to do weird hole punching through NAT, etc.

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