I can't get past the fact that an IDE has a "login" button on it.
The Zed Debugger Is Here
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#122Zed feels like what Lapce, Helix and Neovim couldn't achieve in the time they spent.
I started using Helix back around 2021-2022 and just couldn't get over the bugs and lack of integration. It was good, but PHP support (I was working at an older company) was bad.
Neovim felt closest to a nice editor but there were some popular community-driven plugins that were very stubborn, and alternatives were just very slow. I was also just overwhelmed by the choices I needed to make for something stable.
Lapce just felt like a VSCode clone that didn't do anything special. Looked cool, but I did not feel like it was ready for a daily driver (And it still doesn't).
Zed became a favorite in a short amount of time, and I'm extremely grateful for it every day. The debugger is a nice addition.
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#123Ever since Linux support came out (2 years ago?), I go to check if they, finally, support “non-retina” “LoDPi” (a.k.a: a regular screen) yet, and sadly no :/
It's so incredibly frustrating. Text rendering is the primary feature of a code editor, but no one on the Zed team seems to use a non-retina screen. Github issue for context: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7992
> but no one on the Zed team seems to use a non-retina screen
This is not that surprising to me. Surely no-one wants to spend their day looking at the pixels?
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#124I can't get past the fact that an IDE has a "login" button on it.
Jetbrains and Visual Studio Code also have login buttons.
In Zed, login is only required for internet features like some of the commercially hosted LLMs, and the multiplayer editing feature.
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#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nah, its the quiet majority, and AI posts on places like HN quickly create their own echo chambers with folks patting themselves and each other on their backs. There is AI as a useful tool, maybe, which is at most few % of current hype. Most folks seem to end up babysitting it a lot to get something useful out of it. And then there is everything else which is mostly hype or narrow use cases. To proper typical senior…
> Also very much depends on the business and specific company. In my banking mega corp, no AI is even allowed to be used This is a huge thing tbh. I don't like these AI things in general so I wouldn't use them anyway, but I just can't imagine going to my clients and asking them, "Hey is it okay with you if I routinely upload all your code to these random American venture-backed start-ups?". And I really can't imagine…
You can use local LLMs.
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#126It's a niche feature, but what's keeping me from switching yet is that they zed doesn't support ctrl+scroll to zoom/change font size yet. Because I am accustomed to a non-US keyboard layout that doesn't make the regular key bindings for changing zoom easy, I got too used to doing it this way. It's honestly looking to be a great modern IDE with almost everything I'm wishing for.
It is funny that accidental scroll while holding Ctrl changing font size is one of my most hated features in IDEs, like who the hell ever needs to change their optimal font size to any other value. It's fascinating to me that this is a dealbreakingly important feature for someone else.
I constantly do this when navigating large files. Zoom out for context (better than a minimap), zoom in for detail. I use the trackpad for it though, not ctrl/cmd-+. I also do it constantly in web browsers, and am consistently amazed by the way that minor changes to font sizes break the layout of any website that has had a designer near it.
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's so incredibly frustrating. Text rendering is the primary feature of a code editor, but no one on the Zed team seems to use a non-retina screen. Github issue for context: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed/issues/7992
> but no one on the Zed team seems to use a non-retina screen This is not that surprising to me. Surely no-one wants to spend their day looking at the pixels?
If nice monitors were free, sure. Sadly nice monitors cost money. When I worked office jobs, hidpi displays were rarely available.
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#128dear zed ppl, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE configure your language detection properly wrt C and C++! every single editor on earth makes this exact same mistake where they think all C is valid C++ (it's not, at all), and mistakenly recognises C files as C++, even when there's an accompanying compile_commands.json file that specifies a C standard and even when files contain invalid C++ (but valid C) it's a delightful little ed…
You can customize the rules for detecting a language by file name/path in your settings. The problem is in cases like creating a new file the editor has to guess.
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#129I think competent software engineers should actually read the "Under the hood" section, before they lose the core understanding on how debuggers work and are integrated into editors. Upon reading the Rust code implementing the Debug Adapter Protocol (DAP) in Zed, some very junior SWEs will quickly point out that they would prefer only "self-documenting code" and would go as far as to removing all comments or even bel…
If be surprised if Zed aren't dogfooding their own AI agents to help writing some of the Zed code. The AI often put a lot of comments on the generated code, and sometimes needs a lot of comments to produce the right code.
They literally do this in their AI Agent demo - they add a feature to Zed using Zed's agent.
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#130For some reason I've found myself wanting a "lighter VS Code" lateley, which is ironic considering I used VS Code for the past 10 years because it is so lightweight. So I've wanted to try out Zed, but it's just ... weird to go back to a closed source editor, especially one that's so focused on imitating copilot, which seems like an odd feature to shift most focus on.
Zed is FOSS: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed