I've never heard of that router brand: https://www.gl-inet.com/
Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
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Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#122I was watching some cruise crew videos, and it turns out their biggest expense is internet. I'm curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs and maybe sell to guests some "piracy" internet?
> curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs Cruise ships are tiny cities. The density overloads Starlink.
Except for all the ships that do use Starlink I guess.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#123Nice tool for curl -> python requests without an LLM, all static: https://curlconverter.com/
Also `curl --libcurl curl.c https://example.com` to "convert curl to C code" :-)
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
> curious why they don’t just install Starlink to cut costs Cruise ships are tiny cities. The density overloads Starlink.
Except for all the ships that do use Starlink I guess.
> Except for all the ships that do use Starlink I guess
Hence why they meter and ration its access. Starlink cannot service an entire cruise ship at acceptable speeds for the same reason it can't service a Manhattan city block.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#125For those complaining about "first world problems"... for me this would be both about the sense of injustice and the joy finding a technical solution. We're on Hacker News, after all.
I'm not sure what you mean by this, but anyone on a cruise is almost certainly wealthy by global standards; it's not like there are poor people there to feel bad about for not having faster internet
Global standards aren't really relevant to how people think of things around them. Protesting this fact is tilting at a windmill. The hedonic treadmill does not stop and nobody in America living in section 8 housing thinks "well at least my apartment doesn't have a dirt floor!!"
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#126This is actually quite common: I've been on ferries, at airports, even hotels, which give you some amount of time for free, often anonymously. So just a mac address change gives extra internet. New Android versions make it especially convenient, with a "Wi-Fi non-persistent MAC randomization" option in the developer options, meaning you can just "forget" the wifi network and connect again with a fresh mac address. In…
> port 53 I haven't needed it for... probably 15 years, but in the past (before 3G was common, and all you could rely on was WiFi hotspots) I have used iodine[0] as an IP over DNS tunnel. My uni friends were always impressed, and it really helped me a few times. The throughput was never great though, but enough for some basic browsing. Edit you have to be prepared ahead of time though, and it's the main reason I boug…
I still find uses for iodine sometimes! Off the top of my head, a hotel basement with no cell service, and once on a flight. It's rare that it works, but quite entertaining when it does.
I think in one of those two (forget which), they just had udp/53 wide open (which works just like any VPN), but in the other, it had to do proper DNS tunneling. And to my surprise, it was entirely fast enough to be usable, which usually is not the case. I felt bad for probably bogging down their DNS server, but hey. (Kept it to a reasonable limit.)
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#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, but it doesn't cost much to accept connections on all ports (AIM did it in the 90s). DPI should be able to easily detect and block non-DNS traffic on port 53, as well as IP over DNS. Just a matter of configuration effort; but lots of networks lack configuration effort, so it's worth a try.
5190 continued well into the 2000s.
5190 was the default port, but if it wasn't open, any other port would work. You could have the client do a scan to try ports until one worked.
Re: Getting free internet on a cruise, saving $170
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
Planes, at most, have a couple hundred people onboard. Cruise ships are getting towards the 10k person mark. One cruise ship will be substantially more load on the local satellites and ground station than a plane will.
I’d guess that concurrent demand would be lower on a plane. A cruise ship has people with nothing to do wandering around, presumably screwing around on the internet being one of them.
> A cruise ship has people with nothing to do wandering around
The major point of a cruise is that there is constantly something to do. It's wall-to-wall entertainment, 24-hours a day.
My 2-year-old was too excited to sleep on a Disney cruise, so we just walked around and found character photos at 10PM. She was too shy to take her picture, so I got my picture taken with her hiding her face on my shoulder.
(FWIW: A cruise is also the kind of vacation that you need to bring some offline entertainment with you. I caught up on reading when I had to stay in the cabin with a sick child.)
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#130I used a travel router on my recent trip to Argentina and found it quite useful. It will be a permanent part of my travel kit. Some cooler uses: - streaming HDR video from closed MacBook running Amphetamine to Vision Pro via Moonlink - Having a working HomePod mini in the hotel room. The hotel internet did not like multiple devices off the router. It didn’t reject it outright but it throttled or nerfed it. Individual…
> The hotel internet did not like multiple devices off the router. It didn’t reject it outright but it throttled or nerfed it. Curious - what tools would they use to detect this, and what could someone do to work around this?
I hit this once - it was using the TTL. I setup an iptables rule on the router to rewrite TTL and then it worked fine.