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Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #12

I don't have any data, but it wouldn't at all surprise me if single/business travelers are way more likely to cancel or change flights, and this is just pricing that into the ticket cost.

Changing/cancelling flights is not usually for free.

Less than 20% of legacy carrier tickets are basic economy, and even ULCCs don’t always charge a fee anymore. So by numbers, it is usually for free.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #97
post #6

I think this is fair play, they can charge how they want (within reason) and it’s not too different than other bulk discounts. But someone should totally make a site for finding strangers to book the same flight with :)

Any amount of premium is worth not having a random stranger on your itinerary.

Do they have to show up? What is the carrier policy on travelers that “miss their uber”?

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traveling solo is already brutal because hotels and Airbnbs are priced on the assumption of two travelers. Traveling solo essentially costs double automatically because of lodging, and it kind of sucks there’s a double whammy with airfare where, unlike lodging, the penalty doesn’t actually make any sense. I guess as a family be grateful that all hotel rooms come with a 50% (or more) discount per traveler?

Cruises are especially bad for this. I’ve never gone, but I’ve looked at but after I had 3 independent people tell me to take one in the span of a few months. Most are priced assuming 2 people in the room and if you’re solo it seems like they expect you to buy 2 spots. I’ve seen a couple where they have a few solo cabins, but the amount of effort to surface this stuff turns me off to the whole thing. The only reason…

Cruises are selling a set space rather than a service or trip per person. The extra incremental cost is minimal for the second person.

Also the more people on the ship means more chances of selling high margin add ons like drink packages, excursions and so on.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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You can’t eat out alone everywhere

This is extremely uncommon in my experience, to the point where I've really only heard of it happening secondhand. I've seen people eating alone everywhere from fast food to Michelin star restaurants and done it myself many times. Where have you seen it?

In my experience as well, never been denied dining. But... maybe different parts of the world have different customs.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>if you’re solo it seems like they expect you to buy 2 spots Cruises are probably more complicated because they price things other than your cabin into the "experience." (Though I think the Queen Mary 2 a few years back was slightly less than 2x for just me.) But the random Marriott doesn't really care if there is one of you or two when it comes to pricing.

Why wouldn’t they care? I imagine 2 people use roughly twice the bedding, towels, toiletries, etc., on average.

If there's two beds, maybe. If one bed, doesn't matter how many people sleep in it. Maybe twice the towels?

I'll say over the years most places do not respect the "if the towel is not on the floor don't replace it". I'm fine with reusing a towel to dry off twice, but some hotels change them every day, even when their signage is indicating a protocol to prevent that sort of waste.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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I love how the author thinks they've discovered something super secret, when they have in fact just learnt about "Group Discounts". Author will lose their mind when they buy 10+ of the same thing from AliExpress.

From the conclusion, they seem pretty confident that this is not "business as usual": > Whenever this pricing strategy began, this is a massive change in how airlines set prices – and one that will likely catch many travelers off guard. > Unlike shopping at retail stores or Costco, bulk discounts are unusual for airlines – at least not just for booking just two passengers instead of one. And these higher fares for on…

> Unlike shopping at retail stores or Costco, bulk discounts are unusual for airlines – at least not just for booking just two passengers instead of one. And these higher fares for one passenger are the opposite of what we typically see, where travelers booking for two passengers or more wind up getting charged more per person than a single passenger.

This isn't strictly true. Airlines have long offered bulk pricing through travel agencies and booking partners.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Traveling solo is already brutal because hotels and Airbnbs are priced on the assumption of two travelers. Traveling solo essentially costs double automatically because of lodging, and it kind of sucks there’s a double whammy with airfare where, unlike lodging, the penalty doesn’t actually make any sense. I guess as a family be grateful that all hotel rooms come with a 50% (or more) discount per traveler?

Cruises are especially bad for this. I’ve never gone, but I’ve looked at but after I had 3 independent people tell me to take one in the span of a few months. Most are priced assuming 2 people in the room and if you’re solo it seems like they expect you to buy 2 spots. I’ve seen a couple where they have a few solo cabins, but the amount of effort to surface this stuff turns me off to the whole thing. The only reason…

There are a couple travel agencies in Ushuaia that sell open cabins at steep discount for cruises heading across the Drake Passage. If you've got a little flexibility in your schedule, you can set foot in Antarctica for a lot less than if you bought a ticket anywhere else.

also: be sure to make offerings to the sea gods before sailing because crossing the Drake Passage can be... exciting.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

#129
post #115

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Why wouldn't you just stay in a hostel? or rent a room on airbnb?

For two reasons: 1. I don't want to stay in a hostel. See below for more on this; but, hostels, at least the ones I have researched, have bunk rooms and shared facilities. Hard pass for me. 2. I don't like sharing a bedroom and, especially, a bathroom in someone's home when they may be there. There's simply a different level of security (potentially false, I understand) in a hotel vs a rented room in a house.

Families who travel together also share rooms and facilities, so if that's a hard pass for you then you wouldn't be happy with the "discount" of traveling as part of a family either.
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