Maybe they should separate vetted services behind different IP ranges. Or even company. And put in place massive financial penalties for those services if for any reason because of them they have to block traffic.
Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
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Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
#122I was unaware of this controversy so in brief: 1. La Liga (Spanish Football) finds pirates streaming their games objectionable 2. They notice that many of these streamers use Cloudflare for something, presumably CDN and load balancing. 3. They appear in court in Spain and get an ex-parte TRO blocking all Cloudflare IPs. (Ex parte TRO: restraining order granted without Cloudflare being summoned to court) 4. Based on t…
Cloudflare becoming Too Big To Block. Sounds like it should become a utility.
Why?
There's no rationale behind that.
Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
#123I seem to recall news a while back about how cloudflare was very deliberately making it impossible to block only some things they provide, specifically for the purpose of causing any blocks to have enough blast radius to cause popular outrage. At the time it was presented in terms of fighting back against political censorship.
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#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a new factor in the equation: Rising anti-american sentiments. This ties in with point 5 especially. Forcing Spanish websites off Cloudflare could seem like an additional benefit.
The “anti American sentiment” is overblown. Average person doesn’t care. I live in Spain and I’m not seeing much anti-American anything. Anti-Israel has reached hysterical levels on the other hand — at least in the media, though the average person really doesn’t care about that much either. In my circles of high level Spanish/European motorcycle racing, we continue to have a very positive reception as Americans in th…
>Spanish/European motorcycle racing
Yeah, you're in a bubble and you're likely misreading their politeness. I don't know any Spainards who would want to get into pointless political arguments with Americans who they guessed to be right of center in the off chance they were supporters of the current US government. Unless of course they were Vox affiliated, but even then I'm not sure they would bother engaging. They'd probably prefer to stick to talking about common interest stuff (like motoracing). "Anti-American sentiment" in the European context usually means being Anti-American government, not being dicks to individual Americans. The few cases where it actually crosses into Anti-Americanism the way you describe it seems to happen when the US militarily attacks a country they consider to be "brothers" or very close to. One example would be Greeks during the NATO bombing of now Serbia. Definitely one of the worst times to visit the Acropolis for an American.
I think your error is that you are gauging "Anti-American sentiment" by measuring how much you witness them bitching about Americans or Israelis. Whereas you should measure it by their actions. Tesla sales dropped signifcantly in Spain as it did in the rest of Europe. BYD sales are up 644%. See what they think about taking family vacations to the US.
Spanish people often end up buying local alternatives when available anyway but don't mind buying whatever when there are no alternatives (iphones, sneakers etc)
You ask the Spaniards if you want to send ammunitions to a country convicted of war crimes, the majority will most likely say no. And if your government is actually acting in accordance with that position and pushing the rest of Europe on that front, there's even less reason to bitch about Israelis to random foreigners.
> Most Spaniards I know tend to roll their eyes at their own government more than anything happening in the U.S.
This we can agree on. As it should be. Why bother with things out of your control?
Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
All systems seem to converge to these monopolies. Google, X, Facebook, Cloudflare. All minor player are absorbed or eliminated.
I think we are partially to blame for this too though. For the last 10-20 years the whole goal of a founder was to grow a business, get acquired then exit. If founders instead focused on building a sustainable business maybe we would have a more diverse tech landscape.
Nobody would fund a founder who wanted to build a sustainable business. It would have to be bootstrapped, and there are a lot of such businesses, but you never hear about them because they stay small.
Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
#126Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
#127I was always unsure about cloudflare as an end user - I don’t want all my traffic going through one provider, but their business use case seemed reasonable. Then my in-laws got tricked into sending login credentials to a phishing page fronted by cloudflare. It was obviously spoofing IDP logins of Yahoo, Microsoft, etc. I sent a request assuming they would disable the domain and it was immediately closed (in minutes)…
Auto-closing an issue and waiting to see if there is followup is probably a decent filter for real complaints. Like you, a person with a legitimate concern will persist, at least for a while.
Re: Cloudflare CEO: Football piracy blocks will claim lives
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
The “anti American sentiment” is overblown. Average person doesn’t care. I live in Spain and I’m not seeing much anti-American anything. Anti-Israel has reached hysterical levels on the other hand — at least in the media, though the average person really doesn’t care about that much either. In my circles of high level Spanish/European motorcycle racing, we continue to have a very positive reception as Americans in th…
>Spanish/European motorcycle racing Yeah, you're in a bubble and you're likely misreading their politeness. I don't know any Spainards who would want to get into pointless political arguments with Americans who they guessed to be right of center in the off chance they were supporters of the current US government. Unless of course they were Vox affiliated, but even then I'm not sure they would bother engaging. They'd…
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#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m gonna argue that piracy is the only thing keeping platforms somewhat in check to not get completely enshittified. I stopped pirating stuff when content platforms gave a compelling easy to use product, I’m back to pirating because it’s genuinely a better product compared to the endless hoops you have to jump through to use streaming services
This comic is evergreen https://i.redd.it/d3423w2g5ur21.jpg (source: https://old.reddit.com/r/comics/comments/bcdlbf/hello_old_fr... )
Enshittification is when there's multiple choices?
Isn't it, quite literally, the opposite?
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> I made it up I appreciate the honesty, at least
This conclusion stems from that it is much easier to launch a DDoS from a single server w/ spoofed traffic than to use a botnet. If you have a single 10Gig server, you will likely not be able to take down another 10Gig server unless the target is already doing near 1gbps[0]. I believe most "noise" DDoS which effects random website operators is considerably less than 10Gbps, and pretty much every giant attack uses spo…
DDoS is distributed denial of service. It isn't coming from one server. It's now trivial to buy 100 Gbps or more of DDoS so sites would need 400G or more to simply eat it.