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I question the intellect of anyone engaging in silly games with the sole purpose of impressing other people.
Seems like a competition that started reasonably and mutated into nonsense over time as the rules were exploited (and never modified, I guess). If it's an established debate style and offered to kids as legitimate you can't blame them. Kids do what is available to them.
LLMs are more persuasive than incentivized human persuaders
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Re: LLMs are more persuasive than incentivized human persuaders
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Do you have a YouTube video demonstrating this? My only experience with debate is from the TV show Community.
This one is very short but conveys the idea well. Not all debate is like this but it is definitely a real phenomenon https://youtu.be/LMO27PAHjrY
When Busta makes more intelligible listening than the arguments of your debate team, you know debate is broken.
[0]: Start 2 minutes in, give it a try: https://youtu.be/W7FfCJb8JZQ?feature=shared&t=120
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What the fuck is wrong with the people running these debates that they reward these techniques?
It is quite strange. One would think a judge would easily throw this out. I mean there is probably not a specific rule I could point to that a high school athlete couldn't ride a bike or a motorcycle in a 400m track run either. There is probably not a specific rule that you can't shoot the shot put out of a canon either. I would just assume the judges have the slightest bit of common sense.
There most definitely is such a rule, and there most definitely are people who have tried to do that - and been the cause of the original rule wording ; and others who still have tried to do so by "creatively interpreting" said rule.
Have you met humans?