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My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

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post #86

It seems like he intends to give away the same way he did until now. How is this a good idea considering that a political instability can wipe out all that effort? Here's an idea: Give away your wealth to run unprofitable but essential "machines" like social media and news organizations to stop the vicious circle the humanity plunged in. Do it just like Musk but hand it to an independent organization that does't push…

From his perspective, there are millions of people dying of infectious diseases and other very treatable conditions. That's the urgent problem and the one he can solve very directly.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

#122

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> So he’s going to selflessly donate it to himself to save himself from taxes? What a hero. You don't really "save yourself from taxes" by donating money to charity. Option A: sell stock for $100, pay taxes of $20, spend $80 on yourself Option B: donate stock of $100 to charity, and spend $0 on yourself Which of these options leaves Gates with more money in his pocket to spend on himself? Giving money away doesn't sa…

The exact same logic applies to any deductible expense, and yet people think they can buy a business vehicle "for free" because it is deductible. IDK why this is so hard to understand.

People get confused between deductions and credits, mostly?

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

#124
post #100

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For you (or other folks) working in tech and giving to charity, apart from corporate match, another couple pieces of advice are to consider a Donor Advised Fund. They are really easy to set up, and then you get some benefits, like the ability to "bunch" your donations (can help with tax deductions) or donate appreciated investments (like RSUs) without paying capital gains tax.

> without paying capital gains tax. It's a funny day when you're feeling charitable, but go out of your way to avoid helping the entity that should be the ideal charitable recipient.

The state is never going to be as agile as private people engaging on topics they are passionate about on their private time.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

#126
post #52

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MSFT is up 18x during that time and the S&P 500 is up 5x during that time. His investments are some mixture of MSFT and other things, so we might say he would have been up around 10x if he'd given no money away. Since his net worth is only up 3x, that means he gave away about 70% of his wealth.

He won't have given away 70% of his wealth. If he gave away a dollar at the beginning that is 10 dollars that dollar didn't turn into etc.

AFAIK he didn't give it all away in one lump sum at the start.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

#127
post #88

His foundation really does seem to do a good job with 'effective altruism'. There's a reason they're marked as secondary beneficiaries on all my accounts. Also, as a recommendation, you guys should look into whether your employer matches charitable donations to 501Cs in any amount. I find giving a solid chunk of my discretionary budget to charity every year lends a sense of purpose to a job that wouldn't otherwise ha…

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If you were to live very close to the border of, say, Canada or Mexico, would you support giving financial support to alleviate suffering in those countries?

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

#128
post #95

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My guess would be, actually a very small number of people think he’s the antichrist. Why would anyone other than someone with decades of operating system passion even care who this guy is? They know he’s a rich guy. Big deal. I’d guess most people just live their lives and don’t care about Microsoft monopoly or FOSS or anything. The same can probably be said for his altruism—most people probably have no idea.

Huh? You must not hang around middle America, out here people act like Bill Gates wants to vaccinate all of Africa in order to sterilize them and also put microchips in your brain. I guarantee if I asked five random people on the street in Kansas about what they think of Bill Gates, half of them would say “oh right he’s like doing bad stuff with the Illuminati?” or something similar.

But that is not Bill Gates' fault because he hasn't been doing it in reality. I think the difference still matters. Only the restricted set of conspiracy theorists and their audience thinks otherwise.

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

#129

Last time he pledged to give away half his wealth over x years didn't it basically tripple during that period?

It seems weird to write this, but: In the billionaire’s defense, he probably didn’t plan on us as a society deciding to shoveling money at his class as quickly as we possibly could.

You really think his team didn’t plan on or even help lobby for that?

Re: My new deadline: 20 years to give away virtually all my wealth

#130
post #88

His foundation really does seem to do a good job with 'effective altruism'. There's a reason they're marked as secondary beneficiaries on all my accounts. Also, as a recommendation, you guys should look into whether your employer matches charitable donations to 501Cs in any amount. I find giving a solid chunk of my discretionary budget to charity every year lends a sense of purpose to a job that wouldn't otherwise ha…

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