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Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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It would be quite funny to reply to an NSA request by saying "Oh yeah, I have that data and can access it but its on a server in the EU. I can get it, but I won't." I genuinely don't know how they would proceed, but it'd be interesting to watch.

ok if that possible, what makes EU agency not doing the same to EU base company then???

The EU doesn't have something like the CLOUD Act, so they wouldn't be able to do that.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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It would be quite funny to reply to an NSA request by saying "Oh yeah, I have that data and can access it but its on a server in the EU. I can get it, but I won't." I genuinely don't know how they would proceed, but it'd be interesting to watch.

ok if that possible, what makes EU agency not doing the same to EU base company then???

EU doesn’t have that kind of agency.

Member states have spy agencies, but they also signed treaties to join the EU. Having your spy agency violate international treaties isn’t something most governments allow.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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> You can also anonymize data and that is no longer considered personal data under GDPR so it is possible to hash an IP address and that be acceptable. That's not completely true. Recital 26 of GDPR stipulates that > “information which does not relate to an identified or identifiable natural person or to personal data rendered anonymous in such a manner that the data subject is not or no longer identifiable.” Hashing…

Plausible uses the same algorithm and they have a page written by a lawyer claiming this is GDPR compliant: https://plausible.io/blog/legal-assessment-gdpr-eprivacy Edit: Found more discussion here: https://github.com/plausible/analytics/discussions/1963#disc... > To summarize, I believe the EDPB has made their position very clear on this in their 2023 guidelines: Plausible's fingerprinting is subject to Article 5(3)…

Unlike Plausible and Fathom, it looks like Rybbit is NOT salting by default ( (but that it's an option to enable per site: https://www.rybbit.io/docs/enhanced-privacy). Which is why they can offer retention reporting.

This seems incompatible with ePD.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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The market for Google Analytics alternatives is crowded. There's Plausible, Ahrefs web analytics, onedollarstats.com, PostHog, Matomo, Unami, Grafana, Microsoft Clarity (free at any scale), and so many others. Despite minor differences these products all compete for the same users (e.g. if someone is a PostHog customer they probably won't be using Ahref web analytics) yet most of these companies offer generous free t…

Clarity is more of a Hotjar competitor, right?

Yes, it's very much like HotJar, focused on session capture & heatmap.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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It is US company. It does not matter where the servers are physically located.

It would be quite funny to reply to an NSA request by saying "Oh yeah, I have that data and can access it but its on a server in the EU. I can get it, but I won't." I genuinely don't know how they would proceed, but it'd be interesting to watch.

Probably randomly find 3kg of cocaine on your person.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Is there any server side only analytics software that is open source and decent? I really don’t want to add any more JavaScript to my pages that I don’t need.

Umami has an API, so it can be used server-side, without any JavaScript (I use it like that).

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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It would be quite funny to reply to an NSA request by saying "Oh yeah, I have that data and can access it but its on a server in the EU. I can get it, but I won't." I genuinely don't know how they would proceed, but it'd be interesting to watch.

ok if that possible, what makes EU agency not doing the same to EU base company then???

If the company or individual is in a country, expect they can be compelled to hand over everything in their possession by a court order (or it can be siezed).

If the information is stored in a country, expect that the owner of the information can be compelled to hand it over by a court order (or it can be seized).

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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As a founder in this space, it not as bad as you think. There are niches in this crowded yet broad space. Plausible - good for self-hosting, but their SaaS is very expensive and FOSS vs SaaS offering differ. Ahrefs - they will use your traffic to improve your competitor research, you really should use them cautiously. Matomo - feature rich but can be overwhelming. Posthog - its SaaS is US based so dismissed early by…

This is pretty spot on. There's a couple of dimensions the major players sit on, and there's enough combinations that there's plenty of space for smaller players to survive in. I'm not super familiar with all of these products, so some of these ratings will be based on vibes 1-----------------10 OSS Proprietary Small business Enterprise Simplicity Complexity Web analytics Product analytics Privacy No privacy # Rybbit…

This really does look like a great project!

Is it possible to use it server-side only, with no JavaScript required? I currently use Umami like that - it has an API, so I can send it page view events and custom events from server-side code. That means analytics can't be disabled by uBlock or the like, or by disabling JavaScript.

Re: RybbitL Open source Google Analytics replacement

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Hey I built this! I was meaning to launch Rybbit on show HN tomorrow morning but I guess you beat me to it haha.

Plausible, Fathom, Umami and the others all do cookie-less tracking too. Why don't you add an option to track through cookies? Most serious businesses have the consent for putting analytics cookies there, especially if it's a first-party cookie. This will differentiate you and instantly make this a more serious option for self-hosters who want simple but reliable tracking. Especially if you can set this as a serverside first-party HTTPS cookie.

Alternatively, add an identify() call and let others roll their own solution for this.

Then I would actually trust your retention numbers.

Great stuff though! Impressive launch.

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