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Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Post by xur17 »

timewizard wrote: post #110
mperham wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The funny thing is that I've owned Gen 3 FSD for five years now and only in the last few months has it gotten noticeably better. It's actually respectable at driving around my city now, can handle roundabouts, make turns, etc.

The funny thing is that a nearly perfect template of your comment appears on nearly every post which includes a criticism of FSD. It's always magically "just recently got better!" As well as "being able to do some selected basic driving despite being called FULL self drive."

Maybe because it is true?

Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Post by boredatoms »

daedrdev wrote: post #62
throwaway48476 wrote: post #58

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Rare earth's aren't rare.

China processes ~90% of rare earth raw materials into actual rare earths

Then onshore the processing to Japan, other countries like Australia can provide the ores

Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Post by ketzo »

shreezus wrote: post #114
bunderbunder wrote: post #65

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Just yesterday in the coffee shop the person next to me was having a conversation about his buyer's remorse over recently purchasing a full EV instead of a hybrid or plug-in hybrid. It sounded like he hadn't anticipated how much of a hassle it is to charge on road trips. Something about having to carefully plan around the locations of fast charge stations, and it really being a drag when you're just trying to get out…

This is only a problem for non-Teslas or vehicles that can't utilize the Tesla supercharger network. I don't think I have ever plugged into a supercharger more than 10/15 minutes.

Superchargers aren’t available everywhere, and even in your scenario that’s still twice as long as it takes me to fill a gas tank, and you have to do it twice as often (at least).

That’s not nothing!

Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Post by scarface_74 »

porphyra wrote: post #112
dyauspitr wrote: post #95

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Tesla is going nowhere without LiDAR.

O3 can now play geoguessr better than master level human players. It can also beat master level Codeforces competitive programmers. I wouldn't discount the ability of AI to make sense of images far better than humans possibly could, all the while beating them at logical thinking, especially in a restricted domain like driving.

It also has the help of being able to do web searches and when o3 fails, it doesn’t kill people.

Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Post by sidibe »

UncleOxidant wrote: post #52
caminanteblanco wrote: post #37

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That's the kind of autonomous that'll make a difference

I don't think we get there until we have all of the nearby vehicles on the road communicating.

Hard for me to square that opinion with the fact these are normal for people in some cities now

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Post by Retric »

princevegeta89 wrote: post #87
jes5199 wrote: post #8

Toyota has been way, way behind on electrification. I suspect they’ve been Innovator’s Dilemma’d are are in a death spiral that they haven’t even noticed yet

Actually, we should also realize that they've been super wildly successful at getting people to move towards clean energy vehicles. Prius is the world's highest selling Hybrid car, and it's been that for more than a decade now. This means Toyota has helped cut down emissions from consumer automobiles by a significant degree. It's not the 1000 EVs out of the 100k vehicles that matter, but rather the 10k hybrid vehicle…

Hybrids are a dead end. There’s already EV’s doing 1MW charging. That’s practically gas pump speeds while also being able to charge at home, and the underlying technology keeps improving.

8% of new cars in the US, 14% in the EU, and 27% in China are EV’s. Toyota’s EV sales are anemic by comparison.

Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Post by scarface_74 »

sorcerer-mar wrote: post #41
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #19

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Isn't waymo already partnering with Uber on offering rideshares in different markets?

Sure. Can you describe what leverage Uber actually has in those partnerships? That's a deal of convenience for Waymo, trading a bit of margin for some velocity. It (or similar deals) are downright existential to Uber.

Customers???

Re: Waymo and Toyota outline partnership to advance autonomous driving deployment

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Post by [deleted] »

xur17 wrote: post #121
timewizard wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The funny thing is that a nearly perfect template of your comment appears on nearly every post which includes a criticism of FSD. It's always magically "just recently got better!" As well as "being able to do some selected basic driving despite being called FULL self drive."

Maybe because it is true?

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