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Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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> They are profitable Citation needed. With this type of company and business model, it's highly unusual to be profitable, so the burden of proof is on those who say it is.

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People shouldn't add insult to injury. Just because someone failed to do proper research and documentation doesn't make it ok for others to make the same mistake. People should lead by example, not by shunning.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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post #115

Good idea 1 year later. Perplexity is on top of the game

I paid for both for close to half a year to see which one I wanted to keep. I decided to drop Perplexity in favor of Kagi, because Perplexity felt like it was trying to position / portray itself as a supernatural-esque Source of Truth, where as Kagi does a better job at letting you use the tools how you want.

Perplexity is also much less flexible than Kagi Assistant. The most customization you can do on Perplexity is answer a few questions about yourself, and hope that the info you add is injected into relevant prompts (spoiler alert: hope isn't very powerful here). With Kagi, I created a lens about a year ago to filter search results down to sources I find useful relating to GNU Guix, which I use for my machines. When Kagi Assistant rolled out (I pay for Ultimate, so I have had this a while) I made an Assistant that only pulls search results from my GNU Guix lens. The practical comparison here between Kagi and Perplexity is that I can go to Kagi and search "!guixc How do I install nginx?" (or simply ask the question in the Assistant interface; the bang will bring me there from search) and I will get back the answer I want. I added info that I use GNU Guix on my Perplexity profile, and there is not a chance that my question would have been answered within the context of GNU Guix as I wanted.

Perplexity is cool, but I found Kagi to simply be more useful.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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post #93

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I am also an existing happy subscriber to Kagi. I currently pay for unlimited X. Now I pay for limited X, where I can't even see if I'm approaching limits or not. Anyway, my main point is that I'm getting LESS for the same money.

Search isn't getting limited is it? And the GPT features always had some limits.

I'm not paying for search, I'm paying for Unlimited Assistant. No, they did not "have some limits". Or at least, the product they sold me was very clearly labelled "Unlimited". The word "Unlimited" is literally in the name, and it was described as such in more wordly descriptions.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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post #104

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I'm really surprised that more people didn't jump on the unlimited usage of Claude3.7, tbh. Don't think it's fair to call users problematic when they were using the product as advertised. "Unlimited" has a meaning.

> Don't think it's fair to call users problematic when they were using the product as advertised. "Unlimited" has a meaning. I'm sympathetic to that argument, for sure, but it's also just a branding-label to not necessarily be taken literally. There must always be a limit to everything as there's only so much energy in the universe: so, the word 'unlimited', in every real-world physical context , is still with limits…

> I'm sympathetic to that argument, for sure, but it's also just a branding-label to not necessarily be taken literally.

Sure sure sure, but I'm not abusing the "Unlimited" service. I'm just asking AI questions every now and then. I'm a normal user doing normal usage and I have no idea if I will be hitting these limits or not.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

#127

It'd be nice if you could see how much each request actually cost in relation to your plan, and to have some type of easily accessible meter. A lot of AI providers operate in black box territory when it comes to limits, which is quite annoying.

> We plan to display cost and interaction details more prominently soon, potentially on the billing page or directly within the Assistant interface.

I too want to see this soon. As a long time user of Ultimate it isn't uncommon for me to use 5M tokens per month and I have no idea if this will be covered by my subscription now.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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post #126

how do you actually get it? none of the links work and I am a paying user... just takes me to documentation.

> We are enabling the Assistant for all users in phases, based on regions, starting with USA today. The full rollout for ‘Assistant for All’ is scheduled to be completed by Sunday, 23:59 UTC.

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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post #57

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I worked for 4 startups that were operating for years at a loss with revenue, all are profitable today and all were acquired. My current startup is also not profitable, we're burning money but we're already signing big contracts and I hope in a year or two we keep growing rather than become profitable (1B+ valuation in a year). Becoming profitable, even at this point is just a matter of deciding to stop expanding - b…

> all are profitable today and all were acquired. They are either profitable or acquired :) > Becoming profitable, even at this point is just a matter of deciding to stop expanding Yeah, growth at all costs is one of the defining factors. > it's a startup accelerator after al The only business models for Y Combinator startups are: - run indefinitely long on unlimited investor money - get sold to the highest bidder at…

> They are either profitable or acquired :)

Why? Once a company has been acquired, does it automatically fall out of profitability?

If it's acquired in a stock sale, it remains an independent entity and still has a P&L

If it's acquired/merged in an asset sale (not usually a good sign), it can still be assessed whether the new division is profitable - except in some rare cases like Google (allegedly!) not wanting to itemize some of their divisions to avoid too much regulatory scrutiny on monopoly positions.

> Becoming profitable never enters the picture :)

Seems very wrong based on looking at YC's portfolio, which apparently includes a bunch of profitable startups

Re: Kagi Assistant is now available to all users

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post #126

how do you actually get it? none of the links work and I am a paying user... just takes me to documentation.

> We are enabling the Assistant for all users in phases, based on regions, starting with USA today. The full rollout for ‘Assistant for All’ is scheduled to be completed by Sunday, 23:59 UTC.

Thanks! I totally missed that, I wish they would announce when it is out rather than when it isn't :)
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