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I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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Re: I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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As others have said this is interesting but use of Ultimate Guitar is flawed as the tabs/scores are so bad on that site, very often not even being close to the real chords. On top of being simplified tons and tons of songs get rewritten with a Capo so people can just play G-C-D shapes, if your analysis doesn't look for "Capo" and then transpose all the chords then you end up overrepresenting the key of G and it's cho…

The power tabs and guitar pro tabs are a big step up over the text based stuff on ug. You can play it in midi and see they are usually perfect.

Obviously I've had access to those for a long time. I would still say they are nowhere near as good as published material. And sometimes I've seen the community text ones actually be more correct.

Really a question of how much you pay for it. Sounds like some plans are $25/month, that's enough to just buy tons of published material instead. I paid $5 for a lifetime membership.. very worth it.

Re: I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see anyone harping on notation, but using notation to point out why the analysis is lacking.

The author self-reported lack of music knowledge. Using notation to point out the mistakes makes no sense. Unless the message in those critics is "learn notation".

The notation is the tool to describe abstract concepts. It's impossible to talk about why analysis is flawed if you don't even have the language to describe the data being analyzed.

edited to remove some snark.

Re: I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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post #94

As others have said this is interesting but use of Ultimate Guitar is flawed as the tabs/scores are so bad on that site, very often not even being close to the real chords. On top of being simplified tons and tons of songs get rewritten with a Capo so people can just play G-C-D shapes, if your analysis doesn't look for "Capo" and then transpose all the chords then you end up overrepresenting the key of G and it's cho…

The power tabs and guitar pro tabs are a big step up over the text based stuff on ug. You can play it in midi and see they are usually perfect.

It sounds perfect which is part of it, but if you've ever looked at the Pro tabs, especially the vocal transcriptions, the fretboard positions are all over the place, seem to be wrong about half the time, and in the worst cases I've seen nearly physically impossible to play.

Also for unknown reasons (licensing?) it's impossible to have the vocal track play when you're using a backing track.

Re: I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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If you're interested in more relative chord progression analysis, check out Hooktheory (I'm not affiliated but I think love their two books / apps): https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/index It's "just" 32K songs, but you can see the top chord progressions: https://www.hooktheory.com/theorytab/common-chord-progressio... And see which songs follow any chord progression you choose (either absolute or relative chords):…

here's a person who analyzed this data and presented it in a far more interesting way https://www.amitkohli.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/interac...

Re: I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an almost irrational love for I-IV-VII-V. It's got a sort of happy, laid-back nostalgic vibe - sort of the best way I know to smuggle an extra major chord into a key. It can be approached in some fun different ways - can be thought of a "mixolydian" progression off the tonic, but it's also two I-IVs stuck together - almost a little mini-modulation if you wanna think of that way. Sunrain[1] by Lotus is probably…

Jeeze this song is hard to listen to.. it almost feels like intentional syncopation on the guitar part but I can’t imagine they would have left it in intentionally after hearing how grating it is against the drum groove

Man. Different strokes, I guess. One of my favorite songs. That's ok though, really just meant to get the chord progression across.

Re: I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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post #94

As others have said this is interesting but use of Ultimate Guitar is flawed as the tabs/scores are so bad on that site, very often not even being close to the real chords. On top of being simplified tons and tons of songs get rewritten with a Capo so people can just play G-C-D shapes, if your analysis doesn't look for "Capo" and then transpose all the chords then you end up overrepresenting the key of G and it's cho…

The fact that the data showed only 6% of Metal songs having power chords should've told him to throw the data out the window. UG has terrible tabs/charts.

Re: I analyzed chord progressions in 680k songs

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post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The author self-reported lack of music knowledge. Using notation to point out the mistakes makes no sense. Unless the message in those critics is "learn notation".

The notation is the tool to describe abstract concepts. It's impossible to talk about why analysis is flawed if you don't even have the language to describe the data being analyzed. edited to remove some snark.

So it is _exactly_ what I called it to be then: HN giving a pseudo-lecture on notation. Because notation is important.

However, it's a loose exploration of data, no hypothesis. The "flaw" only exists if you treat it like it is meant for professional musicians.

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