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Post by petecooper »

geriatric-janny wrote: post #59
delusional wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What kind of official association could one have with 4chan? 4chan was formative for my early connection to the internet, and I'm really curious what the organization behind it looked like. Was it professionally driven, or just some random guy mailing checks? stuff like that.

I lied about my age and was given janitor access in the mid 2000s. There was a special /j/ board to coordinate on, but it broke relatively early, and you mostly had to hang out in the #janiteam channel on Rizon. I think almost everybody else was underage as well. There was a minimal web overlay that let you delete/escalate posts. You couldn't see people's IPs, but you could see how many outstanding ban requests they…

>And the checks arrived on time every month: $0.00

Unexpectedly poignant.

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Post by Andrex »

mattlondon wrote: post #77
CamelCaseName wrote: post #2

If you lamented the disappearance of the "old internet", well, this was a part of it, and now it may be gone too. The title is also a fair bit understated. They're leaking the moderators home addresses and work contact info (for admins, who are(were?) paid moderators)

I'd hardly call it the "old internet". It is very niche, and has not been around that long really - like what 2003 or something? Nothing compared to e.g. Geocities which was early-mid 90s IIRC which I'd argue had more relevance to people than 4chan.

Web 2.0 and before is now considered the old internet.

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Post by TonyTrapp »

ceejayoz wrote: post #90
TonyTrapp wrote: post #66

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Can you please elaborate how it is "asking for it" if we assume the basic auth password is reasonably complex and kept as safe as, say, the SSH login credentials of the same server?

I haven’t used it for many years now, but phpMyAdmin was long a source of compromises. Lots of security holes.

That's my point - if you have a reasonably secure password (let's say 50-100 characters, fully random), it's extremely unlikely that anyone is ever going to even get beyond the basic auth prompt.

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Post by ArinaS »

cbg0 wrote: post #73
TonyTrapp wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please elaborate how it is "asking for it" if we assume the basic auth password is reasonably complex and kept as safe as, say, the SSH login credentials of the same server?

You shouldn't be logging in to a server via SSH using a user+password combo, instead use a public/private key combo which is considerably more complex and can't effectively be bruteforced like a user+password. Most web servers don't really come with any built in defense against brute force attempts vs Basic Auth gates, so unless you've set something up to protect it, someone with enough time will eventually get in.

> "can't effectively be bruteforced like a user+password."

Only when the password is weak enough to bruteforce swiftly. It will take literally thousands of years to bruteforce strong passwords.

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Post by shipscode »

The take on 4chan on here is super intriguing. I always felt that the current social media/doomscroll/memesharing landscape which has become so common worldwide is indiscernable and in some ways worse than 4chan. It feels like 4chan left it's homepage and went worldwide sometime in the early 2010s when iPhone-style phone use became more commonplace.

I remember that 4chan users had more honor than users on the internet today. One example would be 4Chan's "Not your personal army" mentality vs. the widespread doxxing/"call their place of employment!" witch hunts, driven by huge accounts on IG/Tiktok/etc, that hit normal people daily.

The modern social media landscape has become far more hectic, harmful, and downright scary than 4chan. Dodging explicit imagery is harder on Instagram's explore page than on 4chan, and the widespread popularization of OF creators has zero bounds across the socials. DOXXING is no longer frowned upon and now commonplace. And memes have become less unique and funny and more commoditized.

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Post by rjbwork »

vlovich123 wrote: post #27
idiotsecant wrote: post #13

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Like it or not, 4chan was a major hub of Internet culture. Especially early on some of the best stuff on the internet happened on 4chan (and a good chunk of the worst, of course)

4chan was founded in 2003. I think reasonable people probably disagree on what constitutes the “early” internet and this is where the argument is. Google had been around for 5 years by this point and I (and I suspect many others) remained blissfully unaware of 4chan for a long time after 2003.

r9k is the origin of a huge amount of modern youth culture and slang. The obsessive vanity and "looksmaxxing" and all the associated terminology comes directly out of the incel culture on that board. It is extremely mainstream now.

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Post by username332211 »

tanepiper wrote: post #47
vlovich123 wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

4chan was founded in 2003. I think reasonable people probably disagree on what constitutes the “early” internet and this is where the argument is. Google had been around for 5 years by this point and I (and I suspect many others) remained blissfully unaware of 4chan for a long time after 2003.

4chan: Because even Something Awful had some kind of flawed moral compass

Funny. The moral compass of most people on the internet tends to be disordered enough to make me think Something Awful must have been truly horrific.

For far too many people "I have a moral compass" seems to mean "I don't even have the self-awareness to realize what I'm doing is evil".

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Post by CodeCompost »

properpopper wrote: post #110
jmyeet wrote: post #42

4chan will be studied for years for its role in alt-right radicalization as well as being a baroemeter for young male discontent. For example, QAnon started on 4chan (I believe as a joke?) [1]. Nowadays a lot of 4chan users and traffic have since migrated to Twitter for pretty obvious reasons. Pseudo-intellectual racism has a lot of roots in 4chan (eg the popularity of Julius Evola [2]) that's deeply tied to "trad" c…

For users who aren't familiar with 4chan - this post describes only one board - /pol/, where you can find hateful posts about every race and religion. 4chan have 30+ boards in total

Well that's OK then.

/s

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