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Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by wizzwizz4 »

codybontecou wrote: post #79
wizzwizz4 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I haven't actually seen any travel warnings published by other nation states (yet). Do you have a source?

"So far, Portugal, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Germany, France and the U.K. have all issued new travel guidance for those wishing to travel to the U.S." https://www.newsweek.com/portugal-issues-travel-warning-us-2...

The UK has updated its "Entry requirements" page, but not its "Warnings and insurance" section: https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/usa

Last I checked, Germany's advice was similar (i.e., not a general warning); and from the article, it doesn't look like Portugal's advice is a Travel Warning either. There's a difference between making information available, and providing warnings.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by the_svd_doctor »

bananalychee wrote: post #49
stevage wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. Last time I went to the US I made a mistake with my visa and was briefly detained. it could totally happen to me again, so I'd need a really good reason to run that risk again.

"Detained" as in sent to secondary inspection, or actually arrested?

Aren't all immigration "arrests" all "detentions", technically speaking (not that it makes any difference in reality - you're behind bars)? Aren't ICE prisons called "detention centers"?

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by brookst »

chimeracoder wrote: post #86
world2vec wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly this. If someone from "high tier" countries like Canada and Germany can get locked up in ICE jails for several weeks imagine someone like me from a peripheral European country. Even worse, my youngest brother that has a more "tanned" appearance. tattoos, and a beard. I won't be visiting the US for the foreseeable future (used to go several times per year for work), just not worth the risk.

> Exactly this. If someone from "high tier" countries like Canada and Germany can get locked up in ICE jails for several weeks imagine someone like me from a peripheral European country. Even worse, my youngest brother that has a more "tanned" appearance. tattoos, and a beard. Out of curiosity, what do you think it's like to travel to Europe as someone who is dark-skinned, has a beard, and does not have a European pa…

Are you implying there are similar arrests and indefinite detentions going on in Europe? Any data to share? Certainly worth being upset over if that’s a true accusation.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by makoto12 »

dkdcwashere wrote: post #59
ttoinou wrote: post #9

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Or use 28 days ? If we need to average both weekly and monthly trends

yep typically rolling 28 days is used for “monthly” metrics for this reason

I've been following work metrics quite closely this year that has this problem. I don't know why I didn't think of this!

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by Jcampuzano2 »

As a US citizen who despises Trump and has international travel in the near future that was booked long ago, even I almost consider cancelling just due to the fact that basically anywhere I go will almost certainly have immediate negative thoughts about any US citizens now.

Trump has ruined basically all our credibility on a global scale.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by verelo »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #29
aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. I'd be interested in alternate viewpoints since I may be in a bleeding-heart, empathetic, progressive, consequence-considering news bubble. My reasoning is t…

Something i like doing from time to time is picking a foreign movie, ie Russian (you know, the standard bad guys) and just pretend it’s a US based movie. Or the reverse, watch something based in the US and turn on Russian dubbing.

It’s funny how quickly you realize the bad guys are both sides.

I say this because often when trying to interpret media i feel the language and accent of the presenter influences me. “They sound like me” therefore i start with an assumption they think like me. Rarely anyone in fox thinks like me.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by gitfan86 »

aiisahik wrote: post #13

Americans do not understand how much press there is outside the US about tourists from Ireland / Germany / Canada getting locked up in ICE jails for weeks on end. It's one thing to refuse entry to someone who doesn't have the right documents. The fear goes to a completely different level once people see tourists getting locked up. As someone who lived in the US for 22 years legally and most of my social and business…

This is the nature of social media. If you see 10 examples of something happening in another country there is a good chance you will alter your behavior.

The reverse scenario is happening too. There are americans that refuse to go to europe because of the examples they seen of immigrants committing crimes and ruining neighborhoods.

As someone who spends a lot of time on both locations, I know that both scenarios are rare, and can logically overcome the emotional response after seeing examples online. But for people who don't travel much I understand.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by soco »

potato3732842 wrote: post #34
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. I'd be interested in alternate viewpoints since I may be in a bleeding-heart, empathetic, progressive, consequence-considering news bubble. My reasoning is t…

>I think the news feeds within the US may be approximately equal in their delivery of "this is good change" versus "this is catastrophic change", whilst internationally it's almost entirely "this is catastrophic change" with minor pockets of intolerance apologia. Exactly. Americans generally don't understand the degree to which the rest of the world gets the CNN 5min recap of what's going on in the US, and it's very…

Let's face it, this is the "regular" newsflash we are getting everywhere: one part world catastrophes and one part local news. Or almost. And as the US is a big player in the world, or used to be at least, most eyes are on your catastrophes.

Re: Foreign visits into the U.S. fell off a cliff in March

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Post by [deleted] »

theothertimcook wrote: post #16
pixl97 wrote: post #2

Act crazy and people stop coming to your house.

For a lot of people a certain level of crazy was the thing that made the US interesting. I make an effort to avoid and me mindful/critical or news/culture war stuff but at the same time. I’ve got this instinctive vibe that now is not the best time to be visiting the US.

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