Earlier quoted context omitted.
> basically > probably > bunch > hopefully > pretty sure > almost
What are you trying to say?
I'm not going to say that this is necessarily true, but why even post anything if you're going to waffle that much?
Italy demands Google poison DNS under strict Piracy Shield law
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Child porn? Drug markets?
Classic "what about the children" fallacy
Not at all. The comment I was responding to said the internet doesn’t work with ’arbitrary restrictions’.
Let me guess. Parent poster doesn’t consider child pornography an ‘arbitrary restriction’. Who decides what is an ‘arbitrary restriction’?
I propose we let a country’s government decide what is a reasonable restriction, not an American corporation. In this case, the Italian government.
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I am not sure if I'm understanding what you're saying. Anyway. What I am against is equating leader's behavior and people's behavior. It's not a nazi Germany situation where the people supported this action, it's a situation where most people don't know about it, and those who know are probably against it. It's such a minor issue that until something very big will happen and go on the news, nobody will care about it…
> It's not a nazi Germany situation where the people supported this action, Um, you do know that a good chunk of the logistics involved were about hiding what was going on so that the populace wouldn't object, yes?
Yes, I was doing a bit of overstatement
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So is Facebook and Instagram. We’re only talking about banning the foreign one. Also, by that logic, all publishing is potentially a “national security concern”.
Banning /foreign/ influence and propaganda? Why would a country want to do that I wonder? We should bring back RT while we're at it then eh?
You give me your take on, quote, Trump banning voice of America, unquote?
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The point of Cloudflare is that it's widely available and that your customers can connect to it. Italy could block Cloudflare access to Cloudflare for its citizens, which would make non-italian CF customers who have users in Italy extremely unhappy. Imagine an American SaaS company that uses Cloudflare CDN to distribute their assets and tunnels their traffic through CF for DoS mitigation. That company has paying cust…
CF blocking a whole country like this would be interesting... basically half the internet would stop working, probably a bunch of italian government stuff too, and people would hopefully blame the government, because i'm pretty sure there are almost zero italian voters who wanted this from their representatives. Sadly, companies bow down instead of just risk it once.
In fact, Italy DID block Cloudflare within the country at one point, and a bunch of people DID blame the government, and the government undid it.
I'm told Italy is a hotbed of corruption and they only undid it to save face.
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That is a big 'if' though. Don't CDNs work by having equipment in every country so you don't have to?
They can peer with large local providers / exchanges and rent some of their local storage capacity without owning that equipment, and without having corporate presence in Italy. (You don't have to be German to rent a Hetzner server, do you?)
That's enough of a corporate presence. Whatever they have in Italy can be shut down. You don't get to not follow the law just because you're buying from a vendor.
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> How is this greedy? It's clearly illegal behavior, both from illegal re-broadcasters and from users. Most of those re-broadcast services aren't even free either, they're directly making money from the broadcasts they're replicating. Because piracy is a service problem. Pirate streaming sites attract users because they provide a better, more convenient service than the paid options. We've recently seen this happen i…
From the revenue extraction POV, the optimum price is such that user is unhappy to pay it, but is still paying, while raising the price even by a small amount would convince the user to cancel the service. This means that the companies are constantly testing this edge, and check whether too many subscribers start to fall off the edge when the price rises.
This is only true in economics model that do not take any morality or the customer's satisfaction into account.
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What are you trying to say?
I'm not going to say that this is necessarily true, but why even post anything if you're going to waffle that much?
CF down means an unclear but sizeable amount of the internet down, so “basically half”. There’s no info on CF usage by government, but “probably a bunch” is a realistic guess. Voters opinions vary, but there are chances that they see that blocking is unreasonable, so “hopefully almost no one”.
It’s a post with all the proper quantifiers and hypotheticals, which demanding people will demand the other day due to overgeneralization.