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Tesla Hate Is Making Insurance More Expensive for Owners

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Last I checked Henry Ford was still dead and the current owners of Ford are not known to be Nazis. Just in the last week Musk reposted "Stalin, Hitler and Mao didn’t murder millions of people. Their public sector workers did." I would rather not be getting a car in return for a sizeable donation to someone who is spreading that kind of rhetoric.

Just thinking and putting some thoughts out.

I guess the question is when does accountability stop? If a company and its descendant employees and products are built on an evil foundation and benefit from it, how do we rectify as a society? Ford is hardly alone here, many German, Japanese, and American companies were built on wartime atrocities and exist today from that previous goodwill. If the malignant founder is dead, is then the rest of the machine exempt from responsibility?

I personally think the only way to be truly principled is to boycott basically everything. I imagine the vast majority of people reading this right now are wearing clothes produced by child slavery or eating imported products that clear cut rainforest and villages or whatnot. Society for better or worse has to carry some amount of baggage to just subsist without emotional stress.

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Because some of us don't want our money to go to Nazism. That's not crazy, it's basic ethical behavior.

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He’s called a nazi because he does nazi signs, endorses the German far right party (not a literal nazi party in itself but endorsed by neo-nazis), keep getting closer and closer to say Hitler did nothing (apparently Hitler didn’t murder millions of people himself so no responsibility according to him).

If Hitler was a candidate today, Elon would endorse him, period.

He could tattoo a svastika on his forehead and people would still find him excuses.

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The whole point is new buyers.. People are protesting Musk. Something like 75% of Musk's current wealth comes from Tesla stock. Tesla stock is going down.. so it is helping the cause

If you look at places like Reddit where the organizing is happening, they don't differentiate between left-leaning buyers of years past, and in fact call them out for being complicit by not selling their (paid for?) car. It's scorched earth and is not limited to new buyers.

Sounds dramatic (scorched earth! my lord), but the posts I've seen are like, "here's the anti-tesla flyer that was left on my friend's tesla" and then a bunch of upvoted comments replying that it's dumb and counterproductive to target people who bought their teslas years ago.

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This has more to do with Tesla's being totaled in fender benders than the events of the last two months because the cost associated with replacing and fixing the cameras, electronics, and sensors. I've had two friends who had rear end accidents with their Teslas. One took over a year for his car to be returned in full working order after being rear ended at a stop sign. The other backed into a pole in a parking lot a…

>The other backed into a pole in a parking lot and they totaled out the car. That's ludicrous.

It's not entirely because of all the gadgets in there. They have a massive supply chain restriction which means that some repair centers can't even be sure that they will ever get the parts they need for some repairs.

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>The other backed into a pole in a parking lot and they totaled out the car. That's ludicrous.

I struck a column in a multilevel garage while reversing out of a parking spot, my mistake completely, resulting in damage to the driver door, door hinge, mirror, and front quarter panel. Progressive considered the car totaled due to the cost/availability/labor to fix it. Unsure what the cost would be for a toyota or honda, but I was perplexed at the total loss of my still drivable car.

This is effectively the same sort of accident my friend had.

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Because it's terrorism.

I remember when tech people were deeply suspicious of expanding the definition of "terrorism" to encompass protest and dissent. Now apparently it's awesome and based if Glorious Leader does it.

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It's clearly intended to impact new buyers. Most of Musk's wealth is tied up in Tesla, and that funding allowed him to both buy an election and -- gestures broadly -- demonstrate convincingly that he is an absolutely reprehensible, garbage-bin of a human. The rich used to start ivy leagues and build libraries. This guy is cutting off funding for the poor and declaring himself, proudly, a "deadly threat" to people he…

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