another illegal walled garden method
Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones
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#122Stuff like this is the reason iOS/iPadOS will never be serious general purpose computing platforms.
Which they never advertised it to be. Nor is my toaster and my oven or my xbox
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#123I do not get smartwatches after having 2 of them. Back to a simple digital dumb watch.
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#124Some 6 years ago I bought new bluetooth headphones. Every time I'd put them on, my macbook would open apple music (I didn't even know it was installed). Every time. No way to disable it, I really tried. Stopped shy of doing some kernel stuff. Sold that laptop, and have never touched anything apple since. Probably never will. The hardware's good, everything else is an embarrassing mess. Sent from my Ubuntu.
It's because your headphones were sending a Bluetooth "Play" command on connect (my Honda Odyssey does this as well). For anyone else with this problem, you can override this silly default in macOS using Privacy & Security > Bluetooth, adding Music, then turning off Bluetooth access for Music.
Music isn't in the list of apps and I don't see any way to add it. I would love to fix this in my car radio.
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#125I guess I’ll take the contra here on messages integration — moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary and therefore security architecture and therefore security promises that apple makes on iMessage. I do not believe average smartwatch users understand what they’d be doing if they got this. I do not believe vendors…
The problem is that this argument happens to conveniently align with Apple's financial interests.
If your value prop to customers is seamless and secure default behavior, then of course blocking insecure peripherals aligns with your financial interests. This doesn't seem nefarious at all to me.
Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones
#126I guess I’ll take the contra here on messages integration — moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary and therefore security architecture and therefore security promises that apple makes on iMessage. I do not believe average smartwatch users understand what they’d be doing if they got this. I do not believe vendors…
The problem is that this argument happens to conveniently align with Apple's financial interests.
That's the problem. Apple has two arguments. It obviously only tells us about the one that sounds good.
Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones
#127I guess I’ll take the contra here on messages integration — moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary and therefore security architecture and therefore security promises that apple makes on iMessage. I do not believe average smartwatch users understand what they’d be doing if they got this. I do not believe vendors…
The problem is that this argument happens to conveniently align with Apple's financial interests.
It's not a problem, it's a good thing that someone's financial interests intersect with sound security practices.
That like saying "people want reliable cars" conveniently aligns with Toyota's interest and implying there's something wrong happening.
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#128Re: Apple restricts Pebble from being awesome with iPhones
#129I guess I’ll take the contra here on messages integration — moving a message over BLE to untrusted hardware and worse accepting them back into iMessage is a massive, massive change in the security boundary and therefore security architecture and therefore security promises that apple makes on iMessage. I do not believe average smartwatch users understand what they’d be doing if they got this. I do not believe vendors…
The problem is that this argument happens to conveniently align with Apple's financial interests.
I'm glad Apple's financial interests are aligned to my interests of not letting the eco system turn into a shitty Android-esque privacy wild west.
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#130Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't forget the classic "Oh, that 3rd party app/feature is so popular, I bet we could build a identical/slightly less useful thing ourselves so people don't have to use other things than Apple software ever"
I've never understood this Apple criticism (scherlocking). Someone built a search for your files, so it's not right for Apple to build a pretty key feature into the OS? There's a lot of fair criticisms of Apple, but they don't have to be absolutely first at everything or never enter the market.
It’s not exactly a new thing, either. Even back in the 80s and 90s, many times Apple either implemented obvious-in-retrospect functionality from popular freeware/shareware themselves or bought up the shareware and rolled it in.
This is also one of the things that makes a big difference between Windows and macOS when getting a new install/machine set up to basic usability. With the former, before I can get anything done there’s a whole laundry list of things that need to be installed and removed (which admittedly is now easier now that winget comes preinstalled), while that list is much shorter on a Mac. For me personally getting through that phase takes at least 3-4x longer under Windows.