Dataminr tracked Gaza-related protests

Post by jimbob45 » Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 10:13 PM UTC

amarcheschi wrote: post #92

whatshisface wrote: post #63

Here's an interesting thought about how preferential surveillance can lead to repression even when it's public and not itself acted on: 1. Every demographic commits petty crimes and code violations at about the same rate (things like parking violations and music piracy). 2. However, people who are being watched will be caught more often. 3. The end result is that people in the "wrong" crowd on average are punished mo…

Just today I was preparing some slides for a course that makes the student participate and show some topics we're interested in regarding social and ethical issues in compsci I googled a bit and I found a hn comment that talked about an article which explains what you say Basically, they estimate drug use in the population, and they draw a map, and black and white people more or less have the same habits in drugs use…

Post by Centigonal » Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 10:17 PM UTC

coolspot wrote: post #98

whatshisface wrote: post #63

Here's an interesting thought about how preferential surveillance can lead to repression even when it's public and not itself acted on: 1. Every demographic commits petty crimes and code violations at about the same rate (things like parking violations and music piracy). 2. However, people who are being watched will be caught more often. 3. The end result is that people in the "wrong" crowd on average are punished mo…

> Every demographic commits petty crimes and code violations at about the same rate Do you have data backing this claim? For example, homicides (that are not a subject for reporting bias) don’t follow a uniform distribution, so I would expect other crimes to also be non-uniform.

Post by Centigonal » Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 10:23 PM UTC

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #102

blorkusmelorkus wrote: post #99

Twitter started as TXT2MOB for organizing protests, and now it and social media have become surveillance tools. The irony.

> Twitter started as TXT2MOB for organizing protests, and now it and social media have become surveillance tools Propaganda, communication and surveillance vary only inasmuch as the sender and/or receiver are coöperating. When done in public, communication necessarily empowers the other two.

Post by giraffe_lady » Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 10:25 PM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #119

giraffe_lady wrote: post #103

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I specifically constrained it to the US because I'm aware that the dynamics and tactics of these movements are highly regional and I simply don't know what it's like elsewhere. Sometimes I get annoyed how US-centric the conversations can be on here but given the subject is american police using a US-made surveillance tool against protestors in the united states I think it makes some amount of sense this time. Thanks…

For what it's worth, German pigs are just as bad when it comes to surveillance of (at least) Twitter during protests. I myself earned a nasty letter after a live-reporting from a Nazi rally a few years ago.

Post by JumpCrisscross » Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 10:35 PM UTC

pesus wrote: post #96

eastbound wrote: post #95

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What exactly is a "good demographic"? This sounds an awful lot like judging people based on their inherent characteristics.