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Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by mmooss » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 3:51 AM UTC

rediguanayum wrote: post #73

luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

Consider that technology may have moved on, and there are other better ways to communicate with journalists: https://www.nytimes.com/tips e.g. Signal and to read NYTimes e.g. high quality VPN.

> to read NYTimes e.g. high quality VPN

I don't see how an ordinary non-technical user could obtain access to a "high quality VPN". I'm not sure a technically skilled user could without a lot of work to setup some sort of chain of anonymous proxies.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by mmooss » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 3:53 AM UTC

ranger_danger wrote: post #87

darkhorse222 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your excerpt is a bit misleading, here's a wider cut: When it published the article, the newspaper reported that it had delayed publication because the George W. Bush White House had argued that publication "could jeopardize continuing investigations and alert would-be terrorists that they might be under scrutiny." The timing of the New York Times story prompted debate, and the Los Angeles Times noted that "critics o…

A newspaper that is scared to post a story... what does that tell you about them?

What says they were scared?

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by mmooss » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 3:54 AM UTC

entriesfull wrote: post #99

Good riddance. We The People will continue to build open and decentralized/anonymous platforms that don't spread government propaganda.

Where do you get good information?

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 3:58 AM UTC

yawnxyz wrote: post #8

> deepened our understanding of reaching audiences that might otherwise be blocked from accessing our journalism > Users who wish to continue reading Times journalism where their access to the main website may be blocked can do so through WhatsApp or Telegram. https://archive.is/ is still the de-facto way to read NYT articles...

"https://archive.is is still the de-facto way to read NYT articles..."

It's popular on HN for sure, but archive.is only works where the NYT article is archived

Lighter weight, open source, local solutions like Bypass Paywalls Clean work on any NYT article regardless of whether archived

archive.is may be blocked for some internet subscribers in some countries

archive.is webpages are quite large and contain telemetry

For example,

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by op00to » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 3:59 AM UTC

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #43

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #29

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I'm excited to hear why you put "vaccine" in scare quotes.

I'm not the same person. But a vaccine which doesn't actually provide lasting immunity is a really shit vaccine. And while I wouldn't say that means it doesn't deserve to be called a vaccine at all, certainly many people think that.

No, it’s not. The tetanus vaccine saves lives and must be redone every so often. The cholera vaccine as well. There are many excellent vaccines that save lives that require boosters.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by Auracle » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 4:12 AM UTC

Spooky23 wrote: post #107

Auracle wrote: post #63

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That article makes awful conclusions. Biden’s age was a bigger factor because it was absolutely clear he was in rapid cognitive decline. No doubt it’s also happened to Trump at his age (as it does to everyone), but Biden essentially hid from any unscripted press the entirety of his Presidency. Trump does the opposite. We can all judge his actual cognitive faculties because he’s constantly tweeting or in front of came…

Biden has severe spinal arthritis and neuropathy in his feet. The guy walks around in pretty severe pain and suffers from a stutter. The story of the cognitive decline was pushed aggressively by the Trump people because it’s good TV. Just like they neutralized Desantis with the weirdo campaign. It’s pretty obvious that Trump is a turnip. I’ve heard him speak in person… the sound bites sound cogent on TV, but the dude…

Oh, come on. Are people still using the "stutter" excuse? Go look up a video of him from 2000 or whatever. His stutter sure did get worse!

The story of cognitive decline was pushed because it was true. That's why he basically did no press, and why he used a teleprompter during times no other president would: https://archive.is/C60uH

When he did speak without one, he regularly said stuff like "they don't want me to talk about that."

I don't disagree that they're both way too old. However, the Trump we have now seems to be basically the same Trump we had in 2016. He rambles about as much as he did then. He could quickly deteriorate though - we'll see.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by dangus » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 4:13 AM UTC

spyspy wrote: post #14

luma wrote: post #4

Journalists speak truth to power, meanwhile the NYT aligns itself with power at every opportunity. For example, they knew the NSA was spying on us but never ran the story to protect GW's chances at reelection. Presumably they didn't want to be seen as anti-establishment with the new powers and are reverting to their time-proven behavior. NYT will lick the boot when presented, same as ever.

Disclaimer I worked at NYT but this is just unsubstantiated garbage. Say what you will about the company and journalism as a whole but you’d be hard pressed to find a better group of truth-seekers out there. waves hands at every other “news” outlet

I don't really disagree with you but at the same time I wouldn't expect any run of the mill employee to know about this sort of conspiracy if it were real.

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by ranger_danger » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 4:13 AM UTC

mmooss wrote: post #122

ranger_danger wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A newspaper that is scared to post a story... what does that tell you about them?

What says they were scared?

> decided not to report the piece after being pressured

Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 4:20 AM UTC

c22 wrote: post #92

michaelt wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think "about ten CIA employees were provided Times cover" was a way to funnel CIA info into the NYT - which, as you say, wouldn't need direct employment. It sounds more like CIA spies wanted to go poking around in foreign countries, interviewing people and photographing things, which being an NYT reporter allowed them to do.

But what does the NYT get out of it?

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Re: New York Times shut down Tor Onion service

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Post by uni_baconcat » Sat, Mar 15, 2025, 4:52 AM UTC

rsync wrote: post #100

uni_baconcat wrote: post #96

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You know they tear off all pages of negative CPC reports, right?

No, I don’t know that because it is not the case. I have sat in that library and read the NYT with a big, loud, front page headline critical of China and the CCP. I have never seen pages missing.

Unfortunately, I have sat in that library last month too. Issues of latest magazines are missing, and some English books have entire chapters omitted.