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The Future Is Niri

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Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by PuercoPop »

freedomben wrote: post #91
specproc wrote: post #89

I can recommend trying out any non-standard WM to anyone looking to learn more about what's going on with a Linux desktop. I learned more about Linux playing around with TWMs than any other class of software. I don't know if it's really made me any more productive, but it's a fantastic learning experience, the ergonomics are great, and there's incredible satisfaction in building your own desktop environment from the…

What are some of the most interesting WMs in your opinion?

wmii[0], it implements the acme window layout. But the interesting part is that it exposes its state as a file-system. The main loop is a shell script[1]. So BYO posible, fe here is a Ruby one [2]

[0]: https://github.com/0intro/wmii [1]: https://github.com/0intro/wmii/blob/main/cmd/wmii.rc.rc [2]: https://github.com/sunaku/wmiirc

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Post by dimatura »

kisonecat wrote: post #17
bilekas wrote: post #6

> The worst "street-cred" I have is that I've been using tiling window managers for thirty-five percent of my life: five years with Sway and two with i3. As the realization of those numbers (and my age) dawns upon me The author is ~21 and seems worried they're old ? I had a good giggle about that.. And then it dawned upon me how old I actually am.

As a 40-something year old person who used ratpoison more than 21 years ago... Yeah, I feel super old now.

I still use ratpoison, dreading the day it stops working for whatever reason (wayland being a likely one). Haven't tried it, but Cagebreak (https://github.com/project-repo/cagebreak) seems like a possible successor.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by dimatura »

vinceguidry wrote: post #59
kisonecat wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a 40-something year old person who used ratpoison more than 21 years ago... Yeah, I feel super old now.

Man I miss those days. I felt so cool sitting in coffee shops with a 10 year old ThinkPad running ratpoison on Gentoo.

A nice side benefit is that ratpoison is its own screen lock (for 99% of people).

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by floriannn »

alabastervlog wrote: post #99
floriannn wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a maintained fork called “Rectangle” now.

I thought that was a totally different program, not a fork? If it's a fork, I guess that simplifies figuring out which alternative to switch to the first time Spectacle gives me any trouble at all.

https://github.com/rxhanson/Rectangle

It says “based on” in the README, which could just mean “inspired by”, but it’s also in the license so I thought that it was an actual fork. Looking at the actual history would reveal the answer, but idk, works basically the same.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by Ferret7446 »

I think i3/sway has deceived a lot of people into thinking that tiling means manual tiling. Having to manually split and arrange your windows is not how tiling is supposed to work.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by pkulak »

Ferret7446 wrote: post #126

I think i3/sway has deceived a lot of people into thinking that tiling means manual tiling. Having to manually split and arrange your windows is not how tiling is supposed to work.

I switched from Sway to River and have been very happy. However, I noticed Niri when it came out, and was extremely intrigued. Haven't check back in since, but it looks like the project is still humming along, which is awesome. I may have to check it out.

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Post by jdiez17 »

presto8 wrote: post #119
jdiez17 wrote: post #84

I’m also a long time i3/sway user and find Niri quite comfy. I can carry over most of my muscle memory from sway for navigating the focus, moving windows etc. I’ve also found it to be very stable and works out of the box with xwayland-satellite. My biggest issue is that I keep “losing” windows. I open them in a deeply nested stack, do something else and forgot I already had opened the window. It also happens with swa…

Would alttab meet your needs? I've been using it with xmonad and it works well. https://github.com/sagb/alttab

That seems to be X11 only, so not really. It should also be workspace-aware.

Re: The Future Is Niri

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Post by ohgr »

tasuki wrote: post #74

I use Gnome and basically full-screen all my windows. Sometimes I use win+left/right to create a half-width window. Am I a caveman?

This is how I use my Mac desktop with Rectangle https://rectangleapp.com

That and the apple touchpad to swipe three fingers left and right to switch desktops (and different machines as one desktop is remote desked into a windows box and another terminal+tmux session to a linux box).

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Post by lll-o-lll »

cosmic_cheese wrote: post #86
haswell wrote: post #83

I love the idea of tiling window managers and I've done reasonably long stints with i3 and hyprland, but for some reason, I've always struggled to fully stick with them and have fallen back to Xfce (old habits die hard). I think what always ends the experiment is that once I reach a certain number of windows, it can be more challenging to manage them if you haven't gone deep enough down the rabbit hole to properly co…

Tiling never worked for me either. Might be because the place I use Linux most is on laptops, where screens are too small to do much tiling aside from maybe splitting the screen in half (and even that doesn’t play nice with things like IDEs). Plain, boring, non-trendy floating WMs/DEs with some lightweight optional tiling has proven most optimal for me.

It’s on laptops where I appreciate tiling the most. Simple hotkey switching between apps (workspaces) is much better than mouse over some taskbar or alt tab tab tab tab.
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