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Internet shutdowns at record high in Africa as access 'weaponised'

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

api wrote: post #45
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #43

Apps should respond to events like this by becoming smaller--so that you can only collaborate with people on your network partition. Most of the time they instead break altogether. The future is way to uncertain to assume a reliably connected future, which is what most of our tech is doing.

Most of our tech has been developed in stable advanced developed countries.

It would be fun to develop some kind of war games scenario where we see what we can make work in a less stable environment and make changes accordingly. Some kind of apocalypse conference or somesuch.

I mean we'll be doing the work eventually, might as well get a head start in-game.

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Post by NewJazz »

Retric wrote: post #74
imachine1980_ wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this literally happens in mexico, monterrey in 2022 during biggest drought in the century, public supply was shut down while coca-cola keep producing soft drink from that reservoir, they end-up give some percentage back after a protest. https://www.jornada.com.mx/2022/08/06/estados/022n1est

That’s not literally the same thing, it was a protest over them for not “connect wells of their property to the public service supply network.” Which isn’t something I’d want random companies to be doing, and a figurative drop in the bucket.

One drop in an empty bucket is infinitely more water.

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Post by int_19h »

Retric wrote: post #74
imachine1980_ wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this literally happens in mexico, monterrey in 2022 during biggest drought in the century, public supply was shut down while coca-cola keep producing soft drink from that reservoir, they end-up give some percentage back after a protest. https://www.jornada.com.mx/2022/08/06/estados/022n1est

That’s not literally the same thing, it was a protest over them for not “connect wells of their property to the public service supply network.” Which isn’t something I’d want random companies to be doing, and a figurative drop in the bucket.

It's the same aquifer though, right?

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Post by alienthrowaway »

generalizations wrote: post #21
matwood wrote: post #17

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Starlink does come back to earth often in the same country or region as the user. Then it would fall under all the same blocking.

I think the relevant quote here is, "they can shake their fist at the sky".

"they fan shake their fist at the sky... and with the other hand strangle payments that are very much terrestrial"

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Post by gambiting »

kiney wrote: post #110
lenerdenator wrote: post #34

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I'm beginning to think Europe needs to just dry out from soccer for a year or two. Like, we're impacting communications now.

the problem here isn't football. It's rampant censoreship and net blocks in the EU. (same problem different methods in other EU countries. In germany theiy raid your home for harmless political satire)

>>In germany theiy raid your home for harmless political satire)

Can you give some examples so we can see what harmless political satire you have in mind?

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Post by thrance »

api wrote: post #47
lenerdenator wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm beginning to think Europe needs to just dry out from soccer for a year or two. Like, we're impacting communications now.

People getting riled up about soccer as a way to blow off steam and experience their tribalism is vastly superior to what we have in the USA -- a political environment that people treat like battling football clubs complete with lawless hooligans. When a soccer team wins they don't get to ascend to power and leverage the state against their enemies.

I don't know how much of this tribalism is confined to the stadium. Personal experience makes me feel like there is a big overlap between Ultras and actual nationalists, but I'd like to see a study.

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Post by throwaway894345 »

pc86 wrote: post #50
api wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People getting riled up about soccer as a way to blow off steam and experience their tribalism is vastly superior to what we have in the USA -- a political environment that people treat like battling football clubs complete with lawless hooligans. When a soccer team wins they don't get to ascend to power and leverage the state against their enemies.

Surely you're talking about a District Attorney deciding that an individual needs to be charged prima facie and saying he "will find a crime" right?

District Attorneys everywhere charge first and then prove the crime afterwards, right?

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Post by bigbacaloa »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #37
mixermachine wrote: post #16

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Truly a case where VPNs do make sense.

If they’re blocking all of Cloudflare I would think they could also be able to block popular VPN gateways. It’s wild that a sports league has power to dictate to ISPs like this.

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Post by alienthrowaway »

ge96 wrote: post #73
nextts wrote: post #13

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Why would it? That's a network in space. Could the Spanish league force a US company to block specific satellites covering some part of Spain and some part of not Spain? Seems a stretch.

Would be interesting if they could jam starlink by tracking/blocking the laser coming off the spacecraft (satellite) probably far fetched

Its much easier to ban imports and periodically do sweeps to locate terminals on the ground and confiscate/arrest the criminals operating them illegally. A Cessna or helicopter with GPS and directional antennae tuned to the right frequency bands is well within the reach of even banana republics.
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