When would Apple silicons made natively support for OSes such as Linux? Apple seemlingly reluctant to release detailed technical reference manual for M-series SoCs, which makes running Linux natively on Apple silicon challenging.
Probably never. We don't have official Linux support for the iPhone or iPad, I would't hold out hope for Apple to change their tune.
Apple M3 Ultra
121–130 of 1001 posts
Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#122For comparison, a single consumer card like the RTX 5090 is only 32 GB of memory, has 1792 GB/s memory and 3593 TOPS of compute.
The use cases will be limited. While you can't run a 600B model directly like Apple says(cause you need more memory for that), you can run a quantized version, but it will be very slow unless its a MoE architecture.
Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#123Too bad it lacks even the streaming mode SVE2 found in M4 cores. If only Apple would provide a full SVE2 implementation to put pressure on ARM to make it non-optional so AArch64 isn't effectively restricted to NEON for SIMD.
This is for AI which is going to benefit more from use of metal / NPU than SIMD.
Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#124Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#125> support for more than half a terabyte of unified memory — the most ever in a personal computer AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX released over four years ago and supports 2TB (64c/128t) > Take your workstation's performance to the next level with the AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX 2.7 GHz 64-Core sWRX8 Processor. Built using the 7nm Zen Core architecture with the sWRX8 socket, this processor is designed to deliv…
> unified memory So unified memory means that the memory is accessible to the GPU and the CPU in a shared pool. AMD does not have that.
[1] https://www.amd.com/en/products/accelerators/instinct/mi300/...
Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#126This is a cool computer, but not something I'd want to lug around.
Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#127Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#128They update the Studio to M3 Ultra now, so M4 Ultra can presumably go directly into the Mac Pro at WWDC? Interesting timing. Maybe they'll change the form factor of the Mac Pro, too? Additionally, I would assume this is a very low-volume product, so it being on N3B isn't a dealbreaker. At the same time, these chips must be very expensive to make, so tying them with luxury-priced RAM makes some kind of sense.
> Maybe they'll change the form factor of the Mac Pro, too? Either that or kill the Mac Pro altogether, the current iteration is such a half-assed design and blatantly terrible value compared to the Studio that it feels like an end-of-the-road product just meant to tide PCIe users over until they can migrate everything to Thunderbolt. They recycled a design meant to accommodate multiple beefy GPUs even though GPUs ar…
Maybe they can bring back the trash can.
Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
It is exactly the opposite. Every computer architecture in production addresses memory in the powers of two. SI has no business in memory size nomenclature as it is not derived from fundamental physical units. The whole klownbyte change was pushed through by hard drive marketers in 1990s.
Do SSD companies do the same thing? We ought to go back to referring to storage capacity in powers of two.
Re: Apple M3 Ultra
#130When would Apple silicons made natively support for OSes such as Linux? Apple seemlingly reluctant to release detailed technical reference manual for M-series SoCs, which makes running Linux natively on Apple silicon challenging.
That’s what’s weird to me too. It’s not like they would lose sales of macOS as it is given away with the hardware. So if someone wants to buy Apple hardware to run Linux, it does not have a negative affect to AAPL