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Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Post by tim333 »

VladStanimir wrote: post #107
myroon5 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, order of magnitude more electric micromobility vehicles than electric cars: https://theconversation.com/the-worlds-280-million-electric-...

The problem with electric cars is charging infrastructure in cites. An electric bike or scooter can be brought indoors to charge.

That's part of it. I had a look in central London and I could sort of charge but the costs are very different too - something like £20k for a car whereas I got a used ebike for £180 and it's much quicker to get around on and you don't have the parking issues.

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Post by mpreda »

_ea1k wrote: post #26
skeeter2020 wrote: post #7

If this graph is the evidence for "Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked" isn't it also the evidence proving "global car sales have peaked"?

I doubt total sales have peaked. Economic growth and population growth will likely keep that going up. But EVs are eating enough market share that combustion cars are likely never climbing past their peak again.

> Economic growth and population growth will likely keep that going up.

What population growth?

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Post by sudahtigabulan »

chgs wrote: post #102
jeyoo wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even an insider joke, everyone knows what an acoustic and electric guitar is. and funny is subjective, I had a good chuckle and will use the terminology now

Until you posted this I was non the wiser what an acoustic bike would be.

Same here, despite spending a decade of my life playing both acoustic and electric guitars.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Post by unwind »

Deprogrammer9 wrote: post #41

This things is amazing. https://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/en/models/urban_mobility/ce04...

The caption says:

European Model Shown. U.S. model only available with clear windscreen.

Is that the piece of orange plastic in front of the handlebar base, that they are calling a "windscreen"?

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Post by tim333 »

idontwantthis wrote: post #30
xnx wrote: post #23

Even in cities that are pretty hostile to bikes, electric bikes/scooters are an amazing middle point between walking and all the expense of a car (purchase, loans, fuel, maintenance, insurance, registration, tickets, etc.).

I want an electric bike but I want to go places with it and I’m worried about it getting stolen when I lock it up outside a shop. Do you have one?

I got and old rusty one and put some paint on it so it's not very nickable. I leave it out at night but remove the battery.

I use normal D locks but are tempted to get an angle grinder resistant one although they are expensive - £150+.

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Post by tonyedgecombe »

davidblue wrote: post #32

Can I just ask - forgive the potential ignorance - if EVs have been proven to be less net carbon emitting with their manufacturing and expected disposal emissions factored in?

The question gets asked and answered so often that whenever I see it now I wonder if it is a deliberate attempt to sow doubt.

Re: Global sales of combustion engine cars have peaked

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Post by tim333 »

Toutouxc wrote: post #101
e40 wrote: post #84

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Exactly. They are a scourge. My best friend’s son had facial reconstructive surgery due to a scooter crash and a coworker’s son broke his arm, quite a bad break.

But.. it wasn't the scooter's fault, was it?

e-scooters seem incredibly unsafe to me and I think the figures back that up. e-bikes are much more stable.

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Post by conductr »

VladStanimir wrote: post #107
myroon5 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, order of magnitude more electric micromobility vehicles than electric cars: https://theconversation.com/the-worlds-280-million-electric-...

The problem with electric cars is charging infrastructure in cites. An electric bike or scooter can be brought indoors to charge.

It’s not so much of a problem due to the average daily drive being a fraction of range. So long as you can charge at home, city life is fine for electric cars.
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