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I found a backdoor into my bed

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Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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It's him and that mattress guy, and the whole stereotype of mattress stores being money laundering fronts. What's up with the bed industry in general?

Could you please let me know who the "mattress guy" is?

Possibly thinking of Mike Lindell? He sold pillows, not mattresses, but I'll count that as close enough.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Lindell

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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I think the key feature is _cooling_ the bed, with warming secondary to that. That arguably sounds like a great nicety to have, notwithstanding all the downsides mentions in the post.

So now your getting hacked and breathing in toxins while you sleep. Hacked up the arse and in the mouth too. Nice.

Yeah, no thanks. I try to make my bedroom as technology free as possible. Apart from a digital alarm clock; at night I put my phone on aeroplane mode and place it outside my closed bedroom door.

It's the best I can do with today's bullshit tech. I've never had a problem with not having a cold bed, so maybe it's the next best thing after the bidet.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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I’m still fairly upset that ambient devices never really took off. Nanoleaf at least made a remote like this. It’s a dodecahedron with an accelerometer, so you can program each face with a different setting. The simplest being to program opposing faces for two different light levels. You want to take a nap, turn the controller upside down.

I've got a cube that's hooked into my Home Assistant setup that works similarly. Flipping the cube upside down turns my bedside light on or off, rotating it clockwise increases the brightness, and counterclockwise decreases it.

How exactly does it communicate these changes, if I might ask?

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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The state of the product's security wasn't unexpected. I was, however, shocked by this part: > I was willing to overlook: > The bed costs $2,000 > It won’t function if the internet goes down > Basic features are behind an additional $19/mo subscription > The bed’s only controls are via mobile app Nothing about this bed should depend on off-site servers. Nothing about the product should necessitate a subscription fee.…

And if we try to parent them by fixing it for them, they will stay that way.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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Don't blame the market. Blame the engineers who know the risks of such foolishness that lack the courage and conviction to stand up to decision makers.

I used to work for match.com and we had a readout in the office that streamed customer feedback. 90% of it was people who had paid subscriptions complaining about intrusive advertising on the site or in the app while logged in. I raised this at a meeting and was told that they weren‘t going to change it because it made too much money. I’m sure engineers raised issues about this as well and were shut down by the busin…

Finding another job and marking them as unethical on glassdoor would be more like taking a stand. Raising awareness of management is just the polite first step.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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> The "smart" features on it are genuinely useful for me... All of those features could be provided by local compute, either nestled somewhere in the soft and fluffy gross profit margin of a $2,000 product, or with Bluetooth to a "thick" application running on a phone. The reason this product, and so many other "IoT" products, put their compute across the Internet is to facilitate a business model. The industry has t…

Even if it were a nightstand device rather than a phone. The immediate loss of functionality when loss of signal to the mothership is an egregious design flaw. There's no reason the thing can't have a bit of storage so it can then upload the logged data when the signal returns. Of course, they'll probably claim AI running in the cloud is making the decisions which makes the local first controller not possible.

It’s not a design flaw, they created a hardware loss-leader and then couldn’t come up with any useful services you couldn’t write yourself.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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I've got a cube that's hooked into my Home Assistant setup that works similarly. Flipping the cube upside down turns my bedside light on or off, rotating it clockwise increases the brightness, and counterclockwise decreases it.

How exactly does it communicate these changes, if I might ask?

Check out the zigbee2mqtt page for the cube

https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/MFKZQ01LM.html

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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I've got a cube that's hooked into my Home Assistant setup that works similarly. Flipping the cube upside down turns my bedside light on or off, rotating it clockwise increases the brightness, and counterclockwise decreases it.

How exactly does it communicate these changes, if I might ask?

I did something similar using these: https://eu.aqara.com/products/aqara-cube-t1-pro (or rather, an earlier iteration). Just Zigbee, nothing too complex, and then you hook it into something which knows how to interpret the events it sends (or events + current state if you want it to be a little more contextually smart). I generally tried to centralise the smarts, dumb devices and a smart interpreter always worked out more robust than clever devices. It's amazing how many combinations of actions you can indicate just by shaking/tapping/turning/flipping - more than enough to do the things you commonly do with one actuator (a light or set of lights for example).

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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I’m still fairly upset that ambient devices never really took off. Nanoleaf at least made a remote like this. It’s a dodecahedron with an accelerometer, so you can program each face with a different setting. The simplest being to program opposing faces for two different light levels. You want to take a nap, turn the controller upside down.

I like this idea, now I want to make one of those. Even a two- or six-sided one would be useful, and I can print different enclosures and reprogram the feather or ESP if I want to add sides.

See my comment to a sibling: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43132279 - there's a few simple little functional objects out there which make this kind of process quite easy.

Re: I found a backdoor into my bed

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How exactly does it communicate these changes, if I might ask?

I did something similar using these: https://eu.aqara.com/products/aqara-cube-t1-pro (or rather, an earlier iteration). Just Zigbee, nothing too complex, and then you hook it into something which knows how to interpret the events it sends (or events + current state if you want it to be a little more contextually smart). I generally tried to centralise the smarts, dumb devices and a smart interpreter always worked out…

One that comes to mind is: flip over to turn on/off, flip over and back again to randomize (like a snow globe).
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