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A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by blisterpeanuts »

dtjb wrote: post #69
starspangled wrote: post #60

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The quote also doesn't indicate the SpaceX team is being "brought in to overhaul FAA systems", that seems like a big mistake if that tweet is all they are basing it on. The tweet says the FAA is tasked with overhauling their ATC system, and people from SpaceX are visiting to share ideas, and it seems to include an open invitation to others to do the same. Political pettiness, and speculation about whether Musk got so…

Maybe Musk should have done that review before firing all of those FAA employees last month. Maybe those jobs were important.

> "Maybe those jobs were important."

It's been reported that 400 new hires on probationary status were let go. None of them were involved in safety related operations. The FAA has around 45,000 total employees, so it's a rather tiny percentage, in any case.

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Post by sebazzz »

gitfan86 wrote: post #112
longtimelistnr wrote: post #104

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Got it, so frame the question using language hinting i'm looking for an anti Harris response.

What do you think is the best way for a voter to decide if Harris would be a good steward of tax payer money?

Bleep bloop bleep bloop, looks like AI generated responses even reached Hacker News.

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Post by jauntywundrkind »

chabes wrote: post #103
Cthulhu_ wrote: post #30

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...it's literally seen as a front-page scandal on HN and the linked source though.

I only found this thread by searching new and going back a couple pages

This & the massive amount of interesting [flagged] threads is a good reason for using hckrnews.com

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Post by karles »

gitfan86 wrote: post #110
karles wrote: post #99

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Trump won because he has lied and manipulated a population of idiots. They have managed to create a situation where they can say whatever they want and still get support. That much is clear to everyone outside of the US. And we don't want any more of your culture over here thank you very much. No one is debating whether or not increasing efficiency or reducing government is a good or bad thing. It is the way it's bei…

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Re: A SpaceX team is being brought in to overhaul FAA's air traffic control system

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Post by JohnTHaller »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #3

What specific expertise does SpaceX have in the air traffic control realm? What was the bidding process like? Do other regions / nations have more advanced ATC than we do, and what can we learn from them? Is there a problem statement beyond "it has some old bits"? What are the specific goals? Just feels like corruption, tbh.

SpaceX has no experience with air traffic control. It's just more corruption. We definitely don't want a startup that "moves fast and breaks things" having anything to do with air traffic control.

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Post by notahacker »

blisterpeanuts wrote: post #119
notahacker wrote: post #73

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I think the intro explaining that this is not true and Trump was most likely misunderstanding his pilot's comments about onboard electronics is the key bit of that article... Fits in with the first term in which Trump baffled airline executives by assuring them that he'd help solve the problem with the airports giving them the wrong equipment[1], also based on apparently failing to understand an anecdote from his pri…

> someone whose first foray into improving the FAA was to arbitrarily fire hundreds of FAA staff 400 non-ATC, non-safety related probationary new hires, out of 45,000.

Sure, so 1% of the workforce of an organization generally considered to be understaffed, with the firing criteria being either that (i) their role was a position the FAA had recently decided needed filling or (ii) they had been successful enough with the agency to be promoted to a new role. Having fired them, the agency will now look into whether the radar, landing and navigational aid workers fired performed safety critical functions. Perhaps, like the arbitrarily fired nuclear safety operatives, they might be reinstated

Does this strike you as the approach of an administration that knows what its doing and cares deeply about safety?

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

amazingamazing wrote: post #108
sumeno wrote: post #107

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People take Musk seriously and he gets basic facts wrong constantly

I wasn't talking about the poster, I was talking about the post. If Musk is writing things that gets basic stuff wrong, then that shouldn't be taken seriously, either.

"It’s only really like the tenth percentile of the adult population who’d be gullible enough to fall for this," the data scientist told Musk during a face-to-face meeting.

"Fuck you!" Musk shouted back.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/data-scientist-resigned-twitter-b...

Musk is not a terribly bright individual. He gets a lot of things wrong, and he does not care to be told he is wrong.

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Post by sjsdaiuasgdia »

gitfan86 wrote: post #110
karles wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trump won because he has lied and manipulated a population of idiots. They have managed to create a situation where they can say whatever they want and still get support. That much is clear to everyone outside of the US. And we don't want any more of your culture over here thank you very much. No one is debating whether or not increasing efficiency or reducing government is a good or bad thing. It is the way it's bei…

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You are conflating anti-Israel / anti-Netanyahu and antisemitism. One of the many lies the right is using these days.

I can think Netanyahu is a dangerous person who shouldn't be in power and is causing Israel to be a not great actor on the world stage, and not a damn bit of that has anything to do with Netanyahu's race.

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Post by gitfan86 »

sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #128
gitfan86 wrote: post #110

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You are conflating anti-Israel / anti-Netanyahu and antisemitism. One of the many lies the right is using these days. I can think Netanyahu is a dangerous person who shouldn't be in power and is causing Israel to be a not great actor on the world stage, and not a damn bit of that has anything to do with Netanyahu's race.

No I'm not, I'm saying that if you want to compare a group to 1930s Germany you should look at the people who defended the Oct 7 attacks and who are against free speech
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