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USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by BobaFloutist »

normalaccess wrote: post #81
BobaFloutist wrote: post #47

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Because we already volunteered to do this specific thing, so it's incredibly disruptive for us to back out at (or well after) the last minute. Other countries do other things, and it would be similarly disruptive if they pulled or froze funding and operational support with 0 notice. It'd be like if Microsoft donated free copies of Windows to a hospital and then one day was like "Actually we've been donating too much…

It's always a shame when people get used to free things because they lose the ability to provide for themselves. I say we stop so other countries can spin up their own programs and pay for it. I have zero interest in using TAX dollars to fund medical programs outside the US.

It's always a shame when people make major commitments and then flake on them at the last minute.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by jjtheblunt »

mplanchard wrote: post #63
jjtheblunt wrote: post #54

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> the deadliest infectious disease known to man where did you get that? it seems like Ebola Zaire, Marburg, and sundry other diseases are saying "hold my beer".

TB is vastly underestimated here in the US where we have largely eliminated it, but it is indeed the deadliest infectious disease known to man. It killed 1.25 million people in 2023. https://www.pih.org/article/tb-deadliest-infectious-disease-... https://www.who.int/news/item/29-10-2024-tuberculosis-resurg...

good data; thanks.

i realize "deadliest" could be evaluated both as "least curable" and "most killed", which are definitely different things.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by tremon »

ModernMech wrote: post #110
aprilthird2021 wrote: post #103

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If you are a young person today, your chance of getting Social Security is low because it will be scrapped by the time we reach that age. Medicare also is for seniors, Medicaid is for the impoverished. Veteran services are for veterans. Most of what you describe is not for the average American citizen. But it is the average American citizen who has more credit card debt than ever before, whose wages don't keep pace w…

I mean, they basically are. They are slashing foreign aid, slashing Medicaid $800B, slashing SNAP programs 20%, and they're giving the money back to the American people in the form of tax breaks. But not average Americans, no, don't be silly. It's going back to the 1% and corporations, the "real Americans" who built this country. Average Americans get nothing. Actually, it's worse than that we get less than nothing;…

slashing Medicaid $800B

Note that the full Medicaid budget is $880B. So "slashing" it by 90% is just code for abolishing it entirely.

[to] the "real Americans" who built this country

And to the African immigrant that purchased it.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by wakawaka28 »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #97
normalaccess wrote: post #81

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It's always a shame when people get used to free things because they lose the ability to provide for themselves. I say we stop so other countries can spin up their own programs and pay for it. I have zero interest in using TAX dollars to fund medical programs outside the US.

Stopping HIV & drug-resistant TB outside of the US borders directly benefits Americans.

That is indirect at best.

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Post by mplanchard »

normalaccess wrote: post #84
mplanchard wrote: post #68

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> we, American citizens, will never receive anything like that amount of aid 21% of the federal budget goes to Social Security (aid) 16% goes to medicare (aid) 10% goes to other health spending (probably at least partially aid -- edit: further research shows that of this, around 90% is some kind of aid) 7% goes to income security (aid) 4% goes to veteran services (aid) 3% goes to education, training, employment, and…

It's not the spending itself that's the problem. It's the the waste in each program. The middle men and NGO's that are hovering up free money from the tax payers that is the problem. All these programs are treated like cookie jars and everyone gets a nibble.

Do you have any proof of this assertion? Most government agencies outside of the military have passed financial audits. People who have worked as auditors in the public and private sectors generally report more waste and fraud in the private sector by far.

Re: USAID funding freeze disrupts global tuberculosis control efforts

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Post by andy_ppp »

LunaSea wrote: post #120
andy_ppp wrote: post #118

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I dunno, one thing is for sure the US has some amazing submarine technology. What makes you say they can't be made?

Because the US submarine production calender is completely full and unable to scale up. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-04-18/aukus-congress-subcom... Australia will also not have full control of their own submarines: https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/07/austra...

Impossible to scale up I’m not convinced by, military projects delayed? 100% certainty I’d say.
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