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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Another DOGE member created a tool that generates ballot images to be used by counting machines to satisfy any statistical outcome requirements: https://bsky.app/profile/denisedwheeler.bsky.social/post/3lh... He worked in contact with Musk and his sponsorship to create this tool Interesting cybercrime research credentials Yes there's not evidence available that this research was used for crime, just that the project…

That thread seemed low on evidence. It seemed reasonable that that code could be part of a test suite.

Yup, there are election conspiracy theorists on the left too. I ran into a few on Bluesky, and after a conversation, they were realizing the evidence they wanted to believe in was quite thin and that they should hold off on such strong beliefs

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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I’m amazed at the mental gymnastics I’m witnessing from people trying to defend 100% of what’s happening. When people were criticizing the age of the people on the team, the narrative was that they are young and energetic adults and that it’s offensive to bring their age into question. As soon as one of them (age 25!) was discovered to have written some blatantly racist remarks, the narrative flipped to pleas to forg…

> As soon as one of them (age 25!) was discovered to have written some blatantly racist remarks, the narrative flipped to pleas to forgive them because they’re just kids.

Yeah, you just made that up. The "narrative" about the 25-year-old's remarks was not based on his age. This is the narrative, from JD Vance the vice president himself:

"Here’s my view:

I obviously disagree with some of Elez’s posts, but I don’t think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid’s life.

We shouldn’t reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever.

So I say bring him back.

If he’s a bad dude or a terrible member of the team, fire him for that." [0]

[0] https://x.com/JDVance/status/1887900880143343633

Obviously the operative line is the central one about not rewarding journalists who try to destroy people, "Ever". That means regardless of who the target is or their age.

>intellectual dishonesty and hypocrisy is so blatant that you can’t possibly ignore it

Hypocritical intellectual dishonesty indeed.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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> I also wonder whether these people were hired by Musk on purpose or he’s just a clueless imbecile who was duped by people who saw an opportunity to further their own goals.

This is a more interesting question to ask of some of the historic government waste the department is theoretically supposed to be tackling and the people who authorised wasteful government spending.

In Musk's case the unqualified young people in question are hardly in a position to persuasively argue they have a sophisticated grasp of workplace norms, government finances and auditing practices, and their Twitter edglordism is nothing that he wouldn't do himself so I don't think they've slipped by some thorough vetting process.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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When Elon stripped the Twitter organisation down to its fundamental parts, saved tons of money and the service is still ran like usual, people said the he’s a moron and the service couldn’t possibly run without a bloated and inefficient workforce. They were wrong. Now that Elon is applying the same philosophy to all of his companies and now the federal government, people are once again saying he doesn’t know what he’…

Just want to point out that Twitter is not running anything like it used to. It’s handling orders of magnitude less load because they have broken all publicly embedded tweets, blocked public searching of tweets, blocked public browsing of tweets, and cut off all API access except for a very few who are paying.

Brand safety is also essentially turned off. This was a staff-intensive feature because brands can’t delete other users’ tweets the way they can hide or delete or turn off comments in Meta platforms and Youtube. They had to have help from Twitter staff, and now they don’t.

Finally, Twitter’s ad targeting is horribly broken and there is little recourse. Again, that customer service was staff-intensive and therefore a target of cuts.

Elon dramatically shrank Twitter into a much smaller service and company. And that’s a fine approach for a private company, because customers can just go elsewhere (Threads, Mastodon, Bluesky, Truth Social, etc) if they don’t like it.

It will not work as a way to improve the federal government. If you take away highway funding and healthcare and national defense, there is not an alternative federal government that American citizens can switch to.

It’s a dramatic demonstration of how poorly many business leaders understand what government does. Tech leaders can move fast and break things because they operate inside the protected, optimized space created by what government does. Break the government and you also break all the assumptions that give license to innovation.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

#126
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This is uh, a more than a little disturbing. Is JD Vance going to say that he deserves grace too? More context [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/764_(organization)

For reference: JD Vance said that another DOGE staffer, who resigned after it was reported that he'd publicly come out in favor of racism, eugenics, and normalizing hate against Indian people on Twitter, should be rehired because it was just "stupid social media activity".

No, you're lying by extracting context. Here's what he said.

Here’s my view:

I obviously disagree with some of Elez’s posts, but I don’t think stupid social media activity should ruin a kid’s life.

We shouldn’t reward journalists who try to destroy people. Ever.

So I say bring him back.

If he’s a bad dude or a terrible member of the team, fire him for that.

https://x.com/JDVance/status/1887900880143343633 --

The part about the journalists is the operative part obviously.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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The stakes are high for these kids. They're obviously very talented individuals, but they're in deep. The reality probably isn't lost on them. I hope they stay safe, they're doing important work.

Wait, what important work are they doing?

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

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post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why are high level figures in these departments just letting them walk in The better question is what are all the Congressmen doing cozily on Capitol Hill. Like, not one has walked over to these departments to try and physically stop these kids from gaining the keys to the kingdom? (EDIT: Whoops, they have.)

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-blocked-education-departm...

Thank you—missed this. I’d still say there is an escalation step missing in trying to stop the DOGE bros from entering the premises, up to and including getting arrested.

Look at Seoul. The balls on those lawmakers saved their democracy. I’m not seeing that strength or resolve in the Congress anywhere.

Re: Teen on Musk's DOGE team graduated from 'The Com'

#130
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think it says volumes about how those in the Trump-Musk group (Musk group?) see this. They see the task as infiltrating an adversary, requiring someone with the technical skills to do so but who is also disposable. This in their mind is not about improving anything in the government for citizens, or with regard to US interests, it's about gaining access to a hostile entity without regard to their interes…

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