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Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

#121

Most of the documents were declassified already, I think 99% of 170,000 files or some large number. This was through the The President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992. I don't know what's to gain in this release other than closure?

JFK's assasination is one canonical event of US history.

Why would you not want this to be released?

Weird.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

#122

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I think the idea was to wait for people mentioned in those documents to die, so as to not affect their privacy. You want people to tell the truth to government investigations in the future, and not hold something back because they think in 15 years the government might just release a transcript of everything you told them.

If the transcript involves evidence against a random psychopath who committed murder against beloved public figures (with no connection whatsoever to the government), I don't understand why anyone involved with such an investigation would be upset about the release of such transcripts immediately, much less 15 years or 65 years in the future.

They will name informants and under cover folks and even how the secret service worked and works

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Or just people's names. Something like "Joe Blow said he saw a person with a brown bag." You'd redact Joe's name even if there's nothing particularly interesting about him.

You'd redact a name, but not an entire file.

Depending on what remains, it may be possible to unblind the redacted names by considering the sum total of evidence. For example, these 10 people in the room all would have given testimony, but we only have nine statements with attached names. Who could this 10th unnamed persona be? Far easier to just keep the entire thing redacted.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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Someone previously decided that the remaining 1%, 1700 files, shouldn't be viewed by the public. Why? 1700 files is plenty to hold some interesting truths.

Some people have seen those and are allowed to talk about them: https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/spycast/646/transcript https://thecyberwire.com/podcasts/spycast/647/notes

Allowed to talk about classified material? Doubtful

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

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If the transcript involves evidence against a random psychopath who committed murder against beloved public figures (with no connection whatsoever to the government), I don't understand why anyone involved with such an investigation would be upset about the release of such transcripts immediately, much less 15 years or 65 years in the future.

In our conspiracy theory riddled world? The first thing that comes to mind is Sandy Hook. Those poor parents being harassed by people accusing them of being “false flag” actors and all that nonsense. If you were a key witness in the JFK assassination you can bet nutjobs hell bent on some conspiracy theory or another are going to track you down and harass you. Not to mention the way more vanilla stuff: people whose te…

They can still redact the released documents before releasing them. Many of those already released have been very heavily redacted.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

#128
It's just a symbolic order, won't actually lead to anything important being released because the agencies have the authority to reject whatever they want. Many of the files have already been destroyed anyways.

See:

Sec. 3. General Provisions. (a) Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

(i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

(ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

(b) This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

#129
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Most likely outcome is docs are released and there is still mystery.

Put me on record as being in the "nothing ever happens" camp: Oswald done it, the grassy knoll is just a particularly grassy knoll, and the remaining 1% or whatever unreleased files contain a fat nothingburger.

You still have to explain the magic bullet impossibilities, fully intact bullet on the stretcher, Oswald as known CIA asset (CIA reports show this), etc.

None of this is really explainable by the official story.

Re: Order Declassifying JFK and MLK Assassination Records [pdf]

#130
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Surely nobody sees this as a bad thing. It’s been a bit since these events happened.

I think its good, but humorously waiting for the conspiracists to shift the goal posts so we can spend the next 50 years talking about the "documents the fed shredded"
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