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Re: .mail app

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Whoo boy does that site ever not work without javascript... Sort of ridiculous since it's a static page advertising a desktop app, neither of which should require javascript at all. EDIT: Oh God, and hot pink highlighting does NOT complement their color scheme. And for all its javascript fanciness, it doesn't handle resizing at all. Sorry to be so negative, this site just pushes all my buttons.

well it's 2012, the overwhelming majority of users have JS enabled

I hope the majority of users enjoy having their keystrokes logged, since that's the new trend among analytics engines.

Re: .mail app

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are right, but nowdays there is an (albeit small) trend in the opposite direction (dont enable javascript) with privacy-conscious users using noscript/scriptno and such.

In which case, those users should be accustomed to half-broken sites and creating exceptions where necessary, just as I am with Flashblock.

This site is not "half broken" without javascript, it just doesn't exist at all. I'd understand that if it did a bunch of fancy js tricks, but it doesn't, it doesn't even adjust the layout for small screens (which would be easy given their design).

Re: .mail app

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I'm confused. Is this only for Mac (it looks like it from the screenshots)? I find it a terrible business move to have a start-up release their product only for a platform that is much less than 10% of the world's personal computing marketshare.

It looks nice, but I think you have shot yourself in the foot for trying to release a Mac app first. Windows doesn't have any good email application that is still developed anymore. Pretty much the choices are Outlook and Thunderbird (the latter of which was just announced would have no more feature developing). People are looking for the next email client to flock to...

Re: .mail app

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Best of luck w/ the implementation. However, reading the concept, I am unimpressed. In Mail.app, I can already mark e-mails with different-colored flags, which allows me to come up with my own "get back soon" or "get back later" type of a system. The assertion that e-mail hasn't changed since 1970's is false. Modern e-mail clients manage it much better. Compare Mail.app, Outlook and GMail to PINE--the difference is s…

really pushed the conversational view and presented it in a single-screen way that was innovative (compare how long it took e-mail clients to catch up with that... and no, "group by thread" did not compare). I love GMail's conversation view, but AFAIK, not really many other desktop email clients have adopted it. Who else has it?

Opera seems to have it too, but I don't use it much. It also has had "labels" (as opposed to folders) and message indexing for quite some time, I believe this was one of its main selling points.

Re: .mail app

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post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's like, one line of javascript different (the equivalent of if score < threshold: thread.collapse())

I don't care about the code. Collapsing is a significant change in UX.

EXACTLY!

No one seems to get this, not HN, not Quora, Digg (though that doesn't matter any longer...)

Its about increasing the information consumption rate and navigation rate. Collapsing is critical to navigating threads with thousands of comments, even tens of comments!

Any UX designer who does not see this, is, in my book, worthless.

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