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Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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It appears this basically locks out Google, Amazon and Meta. Why are we declaring OpenAI as the winner? This is like declaring Netscape the winner before the dust settled. Having the govt involved in this manner can’t be a good thing.

Because this is Oracle's and OpenAI's project with SoftBank and MGX as investors.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#122
post #93

Last year, sama goal was 5 to 7T. Now he is going with 100B, with option for another 400B. Huge numbers, but it still feels like a bit of a down turn.

I think that coming down from 5T to 0.5T means that TSMC cannot be reproduced locally, but everything else is on the table. At least TSMC has a serious roadmap for its Arizona fab facility, so that too is domestically captured, although not its latest gen fab.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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> This project will ... also provide a strategic capability to protect the national security of America and its allies. > All of us look forward to continuing to build and develop ... AGI for the benefit of all of humanity. Erm, so which one is it? It is amply demonstrable from events post WW2 that US+allies are quite far from benefiting all of humanity & in fact, in some cases, it assists an allied minority at an ex…

Maybe only Americans and their allies qualify as human, according to them

And only the americans the administration deems to qualify as human.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#125
post #45

~$125B per year would be 2-3% of all domestic investment. It's similar in scale to the GDP of a small middle income country. If the electric grid — particularly the interconnection queue — is already the bottleneck to data center deployment, is something on this scale even close to possible? If it's a rationalized policy framework (big if!), I would guess there's some major permitting reform announcement coming soon.

Don't worry, they said they are doing it in Texas where the power grid is super reliable and able to handle the massive additional load.

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Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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No amount of money invested in infrastructure is going to solve the "garbage in, garbage out" problem with AI, and it looks like the AI companies have already stolen the vast majority of content that is possible to steal. So this is basically a massive gamble that some innovation is going to make AI do something better than faultily regurgitate its training data. I'm not seeing a corresponding investment which actually attempts to solve the "garbage in, garbage out" problem.

A fraction of this money invested in building homes would end the homelessness problem in the U.S.

I guess the one silver lining here is that when the likely collapse happens, we'll have more clean energy infrastructure to use for more useful things.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

#129
Why are corporations announcing business deals from the White House? There doesn’t seem to be any public ownership/benefit here, aside from potential job creation. Which could be significant. But the American public doesn’t seem to gain anything from this new company.

Re: Stargate Project: SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle, MGX to build data centers

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> The buildout is currently underway, starting in Texas, and we are evaluating potential sites across the country for more campuses as we finalize definitive agreements.

For those interested, it looks like Albany, NY (upstate NY) is very likely one of the next growth sites.

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